Room For All

[Pinga]

@Carolla, we have a few scenarios

1 -- CCAC deemed respite at RH with intensive care, with LTC bed on critical list (Our current retirement home is not a solution, so....if this goes, it will be another home, which means another change, which is not the preferred...plus, unlikely to get secured)
2 -- hospital until get LTC bed on critical list (definitely not preferred on any account, but, not many RH's can manage intensive care
3. Private RH with memory care, and go to a 4a classification on LTC list for secured and place fewer places on the list. Probably will take about a year to get one of 3 preferred location with private room

 

[Pinga]

I have never dealt with HAE, but in other cases I notice agitiation levels increase even more when people are "tied down", which could and has led to strangulations and other injuries.

True. Haldol also has heavy impact .

Trying to keep a 91yr old safe with delusion / dementia / mental health issues is not pretty, especially when it is acute, and causes are unclear.

I am thankful for the creativity used by staff in managing my father to keep him safe.

 

[Seeler]

There are special chairs similar to a recliner that are easy to get into but designed so the elderly can't get out ie stand up without help. I've seen them at vendor shows. Anyone seen them in use?

I've seen the opposite - the recliner that tips forward and helps the person to stand up, but I've never heard of one designed so that an elderly person couldn't get out. I can imagine myself struggling against it, twisting, turning, using my arms as best I could, even trying to upset it as I became desperate. But it is probably better than being tied down. Perhaps I wouldn't even realize that I couldn't get up, if someone was passing me a drink and the remote controls for TV were within reach. I've seen evenings when I sit down and put my feet up and don't get out of my recliner from 7:00 pm or so until bedtime - it's just too much bother and Seelerman brings me a snack when he fixes his own.

 

[Waterfall]

There are special chairs similar to a recliner that are easy to get into but designed so the elderly can't get out ie stand up without help. I've seen them at vendor shows. Anyone seen them in use?

If someone cannot get out...it is considered a restraint and requires a doctors order to be used on an ongoing basis.

 

[Waterfall]

True. Haldol also has heavy impact .

Trying to keep a 91yr old safe with delusion / dementia / mental health issues is not pretty, especially when it is acute, and causes are unclear.

I am thankful for the creativity used by staff in managing my father to keep him safe.

Not a fan of Haldol... and yes, medication can become a form of restraint. I'm so glad you have chosen a facility that offers alternatives for addressing your Dad's individual needs.

 

[Luce NDs]

Another one of those powers that allow denial of cognizance? Seems to be a general power expressed on the lesser powers ... like emotions that overcome as some weird nefarious ghost ... ne-philli-AUM ... perhaps the rare desire for wisdom among those that couldn't care less? Tis an opposing emotions ... sort of approximating Pragmatism in an unlikely place like the spreading western whirl!

Leaves some awed and looking kind 've stunned ...

Anybody hear the CBC documentary of "AWE" in the humanoid species?

 

[Carolla]

Trying to keep a 91yr old safe with delusion / dementia / mental health issues is not pretty, especially when it is acute, and causes are unclear.

Such a delicate balance within our bodies & brains - often so difficult to find the right combination for an individual. Tough to go through; tough to watch & even moreso when it is your own loved one. Hugs.

 

[BetteTheRed]

My dad had some real problems with doctors/nurses in hospital messing with his steroid dosages. He was on long-term prednisone, and if there wasn't someone right there with exact dosages, they'd half kill him with 'roid rages trying to reduce the inflammation in his lungs. And my mom, once she had to come off lithium because of her kidneys, was always at risk of being drugged to numb out her bi-polar tendencies.

 

[Luce NDs]

Mind and body ... are really strange things about why we know far too little about ...

Could we hope to learn ... just out of response to our coming relations? Is that charity over and above general success theology?

 

[Seeler]

Today at church I was talking to a 91 year old man who, with his wife, just moved into a seniors' residence here in the city. They were finding their four bedroom home in the country too much for them to care for. He was spry and intelligent. (she's only 80)
When I got home I told Seelerman about meeting him. 'He didn't look more than 80." I said.
"My age?" ask Seelerman.
"Your age, but you look 70."
Seelerman again, "I thought I looked 65."
We age at different rates. Genetics, health, attitudes, circumstances. Seelerman is older than me by six years, yet I am more and more dependent upon him. What will happen if he falls off a ladder or his diabetes starts causing problems?

Meanwhile, we're starting the countdown for our trip to Ontario. We leave a week from tomorrow. Blue Jays game on the 10th. Thankful Carolla has promised us a win. This afternoon i was snapping green beans in the kitchen. Seelerman stepped out on the deck for some air. I heard a roar from the TV in the livingroom. While we weren't keeping an eye on them, the jays lost the game.

 

[ChemGal]

My dad had some real problems with doctors/nurses in hospital messing with his steroid dosages. He was on long-term prednisone, and if there wasn't someone right there with exact dosages, they'd half kill him with 'roid rages trying to reduce the inflammation in his lungs. And my mom, once she had to come off lithium because of her kidneys, was always at risk of being drugged to numb out her bi-polar tendencies.

What is it with doctors and prednisone? It's been pretty much a life-long fight for me to not be getting it after having major issues with being on it at a young age.

 

[BetteTheRed]

It's a love me hate me drug. Hugely useful for inflammation. Hugely awful long term sensitivities/effects.

 

[ChemGal]

It's a love me hate me drug. Hugely useful for inflammation. Hugely awful long term sensitivities/effects.

I had horrible short term effects. I suspect I was swelling a fair bit on it. Vomiting blood. Not fun.

 

[Pinga]

I had it during periods of arthritis flare-ups, and was thankful for it. Like any med, what works for one person, may be the opposite for others.

 

[ChemGal]

I had it during periods of arthritis flare-ups, and was thankful for it. Like any med, what works for one person, may be the opposite for others.

Oh, I believe it works well for some. It's just odd how much of a fight it has to be when I have tried it. The fight used to be with my Mom, now it's with me. Down to needing to tell a doctor to stop the drip he started of a similar drug when it was already discussed and decided I wouldn't get it as it was an unnecessary risk.

 

[Tabitha]

lots of health concerns with people and their loved ones. Wishing health and good care for all.

 

[Luce NDs]

Today at church I was talking to a 91 year old man who, with his wife, just moved into a seniors' residence here in the city. They were finding their four bedroom home in the country too much for them to care for. He was spry and intelligent. (she's only 80)
When I got home I told Seelerman about meeting him. 'He didn't look more than 80." I said.
"My age?" ask Seelerman.
"Your age, but you look 70."
Seelerman again, "I thought I looked 65."
We age at different rates. Genetics, health, attitudes, circumstances. Seelerman is older than me by six years, yet I am more and more dependent upon him. What will happen if he falls off a ladder or his diabetes starts causing problems?

Meanwhile, we're starting the countdown for our trip to Ontario. We leave a week from tomorrow. Blue Jays game on the 10th. Thankful Carolla has promised us a win. This afternoon i was snapping green beans in the kitchen. Seelerman stepped out on the deck for some air. I heard a roar from the TV in the livingroom. While we weren't keeping an eye on them, the jays lost the game.

Differential aging ... my sister says I was an old man when a kid!

Do you suppose she meant I was demented and devoid early?

 

[Waterfall]

Went to a family picnic in Bramptons' Chinguacousy Park on Saturday. Lovely venue for adults and kids except for those darn yellow jackets that appeared once the food was brought out. One of my neice's children got bitten and fortunately had no allergic reaction, but it did make me realize the importance of having an epi pen handy, just in case. The park had a great splash pad, miniature train ride, petting zoo, pony rides and it was also nice to catch up with those I hadn't seen for a long time. My sisters son apparently tripped on a curb while getting into the car upon leaving and I found out later he broke a small bone near his baby toe....so I will probably pop around later today to see if she needs help. He has Downs and at 24, he's definitely a two person transfer right now. Oh did I mention my sister just found out she has shingles? Life never fails to remind me that in the midst of great times we are often peppered with some setbacks.
This summer I also had a bit of a scare with a melonoma on my back. I've since had it removed and next week I will be having a skin graft on my back due to the incision not closing properly and to take out a further 1/2 inch surrounding the incision. So I think I will just put my feet up in this room after brewing some tea...breathe in and breathe out. Care for some tea anyone?

 

[Seeler]

I'm here for tea - and tea biscuits with blackberry preserves.

 

[Pinga]

@Waterfall , not good re the melanoma, but, glad you caught it.

Love the tea biscuits, Seeler. Thank-you.

It must be the time of year, heard of a number of folks getting stung by wasps, including my youngestson on his eyelid.

I am tired. Oh, how I wish we had the family that does beautifully in times of crisis, coming together and working. Too many disconnects due to age, too many old hurts, too much stuff/history - too many layers of untruths. I was given a lecture for an hour last night and it meant for a restless night. Trying to move my head from the content of the lecture to a focus where I feel it should be.....settling my Dad.