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Misericordia Hospital closed to new admissions as COVID-19 outbreak spreads

The number of COVID-19 infections linked to the Misericordia Hospital has grown to 32, according to the province's health minister.
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Situations such as this should add to the understanding.
And this should have happened a while ago, while this outbreak is relatively new, there have been other hospitals with outbreaks where contact tracing should go beyond just who to test, but also looking at who tests positive & who does not and those interactions.
I would think some of this is being done, but I think it's unfortunately limited compared to what could be done. I do understand medical staff are under pressure, but automatic systems could ease a fair bit of that burden.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I don’t disagree. But Misericordia is a terrible name for a hospital.
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I feel like it's state matches it's name.
It's where my internist has hospital privileges. I had one of my MRIs there. It's funny when I was there with Chemguy I commented about how I had no idea they would prevent infections. I've seen some fairly sketchy looking hallway medicine, but mostly in emergency rooms in other hospitals. Basically public areas that didn't feel like that's what their intention was. There I didn't see an area where it was possible to keep much distance from others, people in stretchers every place I turned. I don't know how I could have gotten through if I was using a wheelchair. Even just the admitting area made me rather uncomfortable with the set up. And all of that was before much was being said about COVID.

I was very relieved when it ended up being my hematologist who put in the request for the biopsy. Had my internist done it, it would have been done there as well. Waiting areas weren't great at the University hospital either, ie. lots of waiting on a stretcher, no chairs for Chemguy type of thing, but the walking through hallways, the distancing wasn't an issue. So more just non-appealing 'parking' areas, but at least they felt like parking and not just sitting in a hallway, being jerked around as others go by.
 
Sounds like a mess there. Just the name sounds like satire, or children’s fiction - something from a cartoon, as in “Evil Doctor Dreadful at Misericordia” , though. Who thought that up back in the day? Its name precedes its reputation.
 
It does use the root word of "misery". But it's meant to convey a deep mercy: the heart of God recognizing and breaking over the Misery inherent in the human condition. It's actually a very deep and beautiful word.
 
Although it could very well be a crappy hospital, lol. It has a good name, by Catholic/Latin standards.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Although it could very well be a crappy hospital, lol. It has a good name, by Catholic/Latin standards.
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It is Catholic.
It's old and run down. The set up reminds me more of what's seen in a small town than in a major city. One main parking lot kind of thing. We had a snow storm after my MRI and I was not dressed for it as it's been a very long time since I was there and we were planning on paying for an indoor lot - no such thing!
 
Just looked at local latest numbers. Calgary & Edmonton are currently the same, good to see active cases decrease here. With surpassing Calgary & some of the outbreaks I was wondering what the longer trend was going to look like. Hopefully the hospital stuff gets controlled and no surge from Canada Day (although the weather likely helped to control some of that).
 
I feel like this article is more balanced with the airborne thing - I would say we really don't know what's necessary for it to spread, and just meeting the necessary criteria doesn't mean it's likely.
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Scientists warn of overlooked danger from coronavirus-spreading airborne microdroplets

Hundreds of scientists say in a new commentary that physical distancing and frequent handwashing are not enough to fully protect against airborne transmission of the novel coronavirus.
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How the 1918 Spanish Flu was Beaten

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Also (May 9th)
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We know everything – and nothing – about Covid - Matt Ridley

It is data, not modelling, that we need now My article for The Spectator: We know everything about Sars-CoV-2 and nothing about it. We can read every one of the (on average) 29,903 letters in its genome and know exactly how its 15 genes are transcribed into instructions to make which proteins...
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#MutualAid
#BeNotAfraid
#SystemicWhimsey
#JoyPrivilege
 
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Does anyone know if COVID can survive in water that is not treated with Chlorine such as lakes or salt water such as oceans? Can't find anything and it might be good to know if we're going to the beach right?

Also WHO is now considering announcing that COVID is airborne....seems they always suspected (translation, probably knew?) this but didn't want sudden shortages of N95 masks that developing countries might require. ( or anywhere else IMO)
 
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Beach bummer: novel coronavirus can live in water, but is it infectious?

While experts say the novel coronavirus can live in water for hours to days, the risk of actually picking it up from swimming is low. The real danger for infection is from people who will be flocking to those areas once they've reopened across the country.
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Sounds pretty safe to go to the beach, a little less so an outdoor pool, and not so good for indoor pool. But it seems to be mainly about breathing common air than picking up the virus from the water.
 
BetteTheRed said:
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Beach bummer: novel coronavirus can live in water, but is it infectious?

While experts say the novel coronavirus can live in water for hours to days, the risk of actually picking it up from swimming is low. The real danger for infection is from people who will be flocking to those areas once they've reopened across the country.
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Sounds pretty safe to go to the beach, a little less so an outdoor pool, and not so good for indoor pool. But it seems to be mainly about breathing common air than picking up the virus from the water.
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Well I know there are ongoing studies regarding this, but I can't find any conclusive tests either way.
You'd think the outdoor/indoor pools with social distancing would be less risky if water was another form of transport for the virus as well as airborne, because of the chlorine used..
Anyway, I was curious....
 
Waterfall said:
Worth discussing.....perhaps opening a new thread to talk about it would be a good idea.
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I agree. Cases discussing the same area could be grouped. Maybe start a new thread. I’m familiar with the situation in Yemen. it’s been scandalous how Iran is arming Shiites and Saudi Arabia is arming Sunnis.

There’s no way to stop them. After the Middle East excursions of 2000s I doubt any Western government could drum any enthusiasm for more wars.
 
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