Grace and the Law

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Are you saying God has limits?
In some respects, "yes". Since mankind was created "in the image" of God we were given the free will to choose. Could God grant you a vision where you couldn't but turn your ways? I have no doubt. Can God "make" you worship? What would be the point?
 
In some respects, "yes". Since mankind was created "in the image" of God we were given the free will to choose. Could God grant you a vision where you couldn't but turn your ways? I have no doubt. Can God "make" you worship? What would be the point?
Actually I think God could make us worship....if He wanted to...the point being, is He omnipotent or not?
 
"Turn your ways?" Is this like rotational when you get to get a perspective of Fanny?

When one has to get an understanding of the old word "fanny" it is not what you think!

Word does alter through time and thus the turn around of understanding ... and the fixated misses it ...
 
In some respects, "yes". Since mankind was created "in the image" of God we were given the free will to choose. Could God grant you a vision where you couldn't but turn your ways? I have no doubt. Can God "make" you worship? What would be the point?

Today in Sunday School the lesson for the day was, "God is eternal, invisible, limitless, and known through his revelation." That's what I just finished teaching the kids over the past two hours, and I'm sticking with it. :D :)
 
Today in Sunday School the lesson for the day was, "God is eternal, invisible, limitless, and known through his revelation." That's what I just finished teaching the kids over the past two hours, and I'm sticking with it. :D :)
So God can "make" us worship him? Like some ego-maniac and overprotective parent who doesn't want their children to ever grow up?
 
Today in Sunday School the lesson for the day was, "God is eternal, invisible, limitless, and known through his revelation." That's what I just finished teaching the kids over the past two hours, and I'm sticking with it. :D :)
Hopefully next week you teach them that God is also internal and immanent within us all, as this would fulfill the "limitless" portion of this week's teaching.
 
So God can "make" us worship him?

My answer Neo would be yes and no. My beliefs...

...yes, God can make us worship him. He is omnipotent and so can do anything.

...no, God can't make us worship him, as that would go against his essential character of love.
 
Such literally could cause paranoia without facing facts of how man-gods would like to scare the crap out of us so we can't think ... or know what's going on in high places ...
 
Very interesting questions. Many thanks for those who welcomed me and for those who provided me with valuable advice.

You are right, I had omitted the source of the quotations I made in the Quran and the Bible, both of which I believe are communications from God to all of humanity. I am very grateful to those who helped me correct myself. Please share more feedback as this will always be welcome from my part.

From the Quran the source was from Surah Aal-Imraan (Chapter named 'Family of Imran) , verses 45 - 50. From the Bible, the source was Matthew 5:16-48.

By the way, be as you are. I believe that each of you is a manifestation of God's Grace to me.

Continuing the conversation with reflection. :)
 
My understanding is that there is nothing we have to do to receive God's grace. Grace is receiving what we don't deserve . Why would we even have to be "aligned" in order for God to give it to us?

Very good point. My question would then be this:

If we receive grace from God, should we be thankful it? If so how is that done? What does it look like? Does it take shape in our attitude, actions, decisions?

Is it possible that we look at it this way?

We are all receiving grace from God. The same 'amount' of grace. But some waste it, cast it away, pollute it. Whereas others cherish it, hold on to it, keep it clean. Each of these never deserved grace from God to begin with, but they reacted to it differently. Are they the same? My view is no. When I mean to be 'aligned' I am trying to describe the latter case.

Hence, another way of viewing the matter could be as follows:

A better person is no more than a person who carries, cherishes, maintains, shares more of the same grace they received from God to their surrounding. A worst person is worst to the decree that they waste, abuse, taint, hold back the same grace they received from God from their surrounding. Naturally, a better person cannot be the same as a worst person.

This being said what would be the traits of a person who holds more of God's grace within them? What are they like? How do they behave? Where can they be found?
 
In terms of guilders ... could this be sacred wisdom ... since such information needed to live adequately (in support of the integral system) is loched up in a strange pool?

Where do wise men thus come from in terms of myth (stuff beyond us)?

If the windows of heaven are open is there fall out as God's house floats by? Wasn't there a movie based on such unbelievable metaphysics as things drifting off in spatial domains? Perhaps just a stray thought ...
 
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This being said what would be the traits of a person who holds more of God's grace within them? What are they like? How do they behave? Where can they be found?

Well, that would be 1st Corinthians 13, 4-7, wouldn't it? "Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
 
Love should be ... however it does sometimes spill all over as an anger management enigma ... generally unknown ...

Then should one look at love without understanding the other way as understanding without love? Should one use care in these domains (areas/arias) and thus tell a ballad or myth about the devil as thought in these cases ?

Sometimes an un-thought condition if you look at the topic from the objective point instead of from only the subjective ... a centred position as a dot that won't expand ...
 
My answer Neo would be yes and no. My beliefs...

...yes, God can make us worship him. He is omnipotent and so can do anything.

...no, God can't make us worship him, as that would go against his essential character of love.
Jae I may have put could , but will not. That is one of the things,about our great GOD . That to me,make"s Him even Greater.
 
Then there's the advocate ... a Kohl devil for controlling the fire with corn ... or irony! The English repealed the corn laws ... and people sobered to what was being done to them at the cost of there daily bread .. a' maze in form? Tis history... ignored by those completely in presence'd and present'd as result of fore plae ...

If straight sense isn't much good in teaching bring on the clowns ... it does have the sense of wend to it ... do warped emotions make basket cases if knowledgeable people are rejected by great wills? Thus illumination was soaked into the depths ... A' Sops Fable? Turn Hur around boies and face ID ...
 
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