Covid 19 Vaccine

[Inukshuk]

This vaccine roll out is so messed up. At the start of the pandemic transmissions and deaths were predominantly happening in LTC places. So the Gov of Ontario sent vaccines and resources to get it under control - successfully. Now the hotspots/transmissions are happening at the workplaces of essential workers - factories, food processing etc - yet there is no concentrated effort to protect these workers. I read that in Ontario 90% of transmissions are happening in 10% of the postal codes. These are the places that need our resources.

 

[Lastpointe]

Just read the new head of the Ontario program is rolling it out to essential workers now

if they had enough vaccines we could go faster. Our health unit has never had enough vaccines to bother setting up their big centers.

and I am not very happy that limited doses is resulting in a big experiment to see how it works after four months. It appalling. The USA is doing 3 million a day now. We get a million doses a week if we are lucky

 

[Northwind]

The biggest numbers in BC are in Fraser Health region (east of Vancouver) and Vancouver Coastal (Vancouver). Surrey is apparently about the worst. BC was using the AZ to vaccinate teachers and other affected work groups there until the pause happened. Now they're using it for the 55 to 65 year olds in that area. I'm glad they're putting a little extra focus on that area.

 

[JayneWonders]

I understand that there are mobile vaccination units in the Toronto area to go to those areas where people can't come in. I will ask what kind of locations they are sent to.

 

[Luce NDs]

Are the powers as imperfect as the demos?

Don't forget where the powers rose up from ... base naivete!

 

[Waterfall]

I had a notice sent to me by email to register for my vaccine at Shoppers. I will probably find out from the pharmacist which vaccine they're giving and enroll our names asap if it's not Astrazaneca.

 

[JayneWonders]

Why not astrazeneca? Dang, I would have happily taken it

 

[Waterfall]

Why not astrazeneca? Dang, I would have happily taken it

Well, I know. Take the one that's available, but I just feel uneasy about it....so I'm going to trust my instincts on it.

 

[JayneWonders]

I get that. My sense is there is souch misinformation. I listened to a pharmacy prod and we'll would have taken it with a huge grin

 

[Waterfall]

I get that. My sense is there is souch misinformation. I listened to a pharmacy prod and we'll would have taken it with a huge grin

I feel I've sought out enough information about it, just something that makes it the wrong fit for me.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Why not astrazeneca? Dang, I would have happily taken it

Because my family history includes a lot of clotting disorders. If that's a potential, and there are other vaccines without that apparent risk, why would I not choose?

 

[ChemGal]

Because my family history includes a lot of clotting disorders. If that's a potential, and there are other vaccines without that apparent risk, why would I not choose?

Autoimmune ones?

 

[Mendalla]

I had a notice sent to me by email to register for my vaccine at Shoppers. I will probably find out from the pharmacist which vaccine they're giving and enroll our names asap if it's not Astrazaneca.

Pharmacies in Ontario are still only doing AstroZeneca a far as I know but I would be pleased to hear otherwise.

 

[Mendalla]

So, I was talking to a dual Canadian-US citizen that I know last night and her US family are all basically done (her father and some cousins). Pfizer via pharmacies. She just missed out herself, having been there at the beginning of the year on essential personal business but returning well before things got seriously rolling down there. Her mother and siblings are in Canada and, like her, still waiting. She has an office job with the Feds and is mostly still working from home so it is not a big worry for her, but IIRC her mother works for Walmart or some such.

 

[Waterfall]

Pharmacies in Ontario are still only doing AstroZeneca a far as I know but I would be pleased to hear otherwise.

That makes sense if they don't have the cold storage requirements for the mRna vaccines....but I will let you know.

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

Pfizer via pharmacies

I wonder how they do it without the cold storage? I think they have a window of a few hours for using it ( in Germany they had mobile vans taking it to the nursing homes), so maybe they have a similar delivery system from the local gospitals?

 

[Mendalla]

I wonder how they do it without the cold storage? I think they have a window of a few hours for using it ( in Germany they had mobile vans taking it to the nursing homes), so maybe they have a similar delivery system from the local gospitals?

I have heard before about pharmacies doing it south of the border but have not looked into the details. I know Pfizer had special freezer containers developed for transportation so maybe the pharmacies leave it "in the box" so to speak?

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

I have heard before about pharmacies doing it south of the border but have not looked into the details. I know Pfizer had special freezer containers developed for transportation so maybe the pharmacies leave it "in the box" so to speak?

But I think that the boxes only guarantee the couple of hours. In Berlin they had to throw out a whole batch that “ got too warm”.

 

[Mendalla]

But I think that the boxes only guarantee the couple of hours. In Berlin they had to throw out a whole batch that “ got too warm”.

Must be more than a couple hours. Transportation, even by air, takes longer than that in North America. But as I said, I don't really know. Maybe some pharmacies in the US do have hospital-grade freezers. Or maybe it was a hospital pharmacy.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Autoimmune ones?

Strangely enough, I don't know.

My mother's problems were probably not, and my Dad's probably mainly prednisone.

However, I had an "illness" of some sort as a 5 1/2 year old that caused pseudo-hemophilia symptoms for some 6 months. I have no idea what it was, and of course, old records are long gone, but I had to go to get my platelet level checked twice a week, and I wasn't allowed to participate in gym, or play during recess for several months.

And concurrently, I have an over-reactive immune system.

So, if I had a choice, I'd rather not the AZ.