Covid 19 Vaccine

[Waterfall]

They said severe allergies and those who carry epinephrine. They didn't specify the reactions themselves but I think it's likely it involved something resembling anaphylaxis which has many different signs and symptoms and a range of severity. They also excluded those who experienced it before when doing trials.

Then why did they give it to someone that needs epinephrine for serious reactions. Are they not asking these questions I wonder?

 

[Luce NDs]

Then why did they give it to someone that needs epinephrine for serious reactions. Are they not asking these questions I wonder?

Ask no questions and tell no lies ... thus intellect just lies there ... nothing learned nothing gained as nothing as a voidal expansion!

Oilai space ...

Des quieting of the demos ... in slick fashion ... the lie is easier!

 

[Waterfall]

This is interesting, over 3 to 4 million people in the USA carry an epipen for severe reactions and 50 million have allergies. I wonder how many in Canada?
This is a concern...
The reaction seems to be puzzling scientists because people with allergies were tested in trials.....so maybe the reaction is from something else?
They are now checking with Pfizer to see if they had those with severe allergies included in the trials or if it was just less severe allergies.

'Very inconsistent': 2 allergic reactions in the UK to COVID-19 vaccine puzzle researchers

British regulators advised people with severe allergies not to take Pfizer vaccine. One US researcher says that would be a 'showstopper' here.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Luce NDs]

This is interesting, over 3 to 4 million people in the USA carry an epipen for severe reactions and 50 million have allergies. I wonder how many in Canada?
This is a concern...
The reaction seems to be puzzling scientists because people with allergies were tested in trials.....so maybe the reaction is from something else?

'Very inconsistent': 2 allergic reactions in the UK to COVID-19 vaccine puzzle researchers

British regulators advised people with severe allergies not to take Pfizer vaccine. One US researcher says that would be a 'showstopper' here.

www.usatoday.com

The stuff we don;t know although there are those that declare they are the greatest no-Eire of all time ... gods*ack ... god's ache?

Trump says it is all in the bag ... with ignore functions ... this can all remain naivete! Vetted?

 

[ChemGal]

Allergy warning for Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine after UK health workers with allergy history suffer reaction States the reactions were anaphylaxis. While looking for this I discovered the neurological symptoms during the trail were Bell's Palsy (4 cases) may have occurred due to something else.

 

[ChemGal]

This is interesting, over 3 to 4 million people in the USA carry an epipen for severe reactions and 50 million have allergies. I wonder how many in Canada?
This is a concern...
The reaction seems to be puzzling scientists because people with allergies were tested in trials.....so maybe the reaction is from something else?
They are now checking with Pfizer to see if they had those with severe allergies included in the trials or if it was just less severe allergies.

'Very inconsistent': 2 allergic reactions in the UK to COVID-19 vaccine puzzle researchers

British regulators advised people with severe allergies not to take Pfizer vaccine. One US researcher says that would be a 'showstopper' here.

www.usatoday.com

2.5 million Raising Awareness for Anaphylaxis | Canadian Anaphylaxis Initiative
Fairly high rate here but also better diagnosis rates. Kids tend to be higher than adults.

 

[ChemGal]

This is the kind of thing that concerns me with HAE. The rates of attacks as a group aren't looked at an HAE attack can be dismissed as anaphylaxis and they don't even all get reported. If I were to experience an attack while during the supervised period there would be an issue over me using my meds and them wanting to administer epinephrine. Have had such preemptive arguments with a vaccine B12 shot biopsy etc.

 

[Waterfall]

Allergy warning for Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine after UK health workers with allergy history suffer reaction States the reactions were anaphylaxis. While looking for this I discovered the neurological symptoms during the trail were Bell's Palsy (4 cases) may have occurred due to something else.

I saw that too.....I also read somewhere they had 2 deaths, I will see if I can find it.

 

[Waterfall]

I saw that too.....I also read somewhere they had 2 deaths, I will see if I can find it.

It was the Oxford group AstroZeneca trials and it was only one death and the person was in the control group that didn't receive the vaccine.

 

[ChemGal]

Acute care workers from 4 different hospitals will be the first to get the vaccine in Alberta, so they aren't even covering all the major hospitals to start. Starts on Wed and 2nd shot appointment will be made when they get the 1st.

 

[ChemGal]

All the initial doses will be given, they will not be saving them for the 2nd dose, the 2nd doses will be coming in a separate shipment.

 

[Waterfall]

All the initial doses will be given, they will not be saving them for the 2nd dose, the 2nd doses will be coming in a separate shipment.

Hopefully

 

[Luce NDs]

Anaphylaxis is somewhat like rheumatoid factors that are poorly understood! Authorities will tell us all about what they believe they know ... w/o question!

Still abstracts ... sometimes taken as meaning something incomplete ... as the abstract psyche ... where portion of it is gone ...

 

[Waterfall]

So now we hear you shouldnt get the Covid vaccine if your allergic to any of the ingrediants.

Does anyone know what the ingrediants are?

 

[Luce NDs]

So now we hear you shouldnt get the Covid vaccine if your allergic to any of the ingrediants.

Does anyone know what the ingrediants are?

Tis a mystery ... potentially a god given how much faith is contributed to it ...

 

[ChemGal]

So now we hear you shouldnt get the Covid vaccine if your allergic to any of the ingrediants.

Does anyone know what the ingrediants are?

PEG - polyethylene glycol was mentioned in one article as the potential ingredient causing the reactions. There should be a product monograph available.

ETA - here it is https://covid-vaccine.canada.ca/info/pdf/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-pm1-en.pdf

 

[Waterfall]

PEG - polyethylene glycol was mentioned in one article as the potential ingredient causing the reactions. There should be a product monograph available.

Good to know but shouldnt we know them all?
What is PEG?

 

[ChemGal]

Good to know but shouldnt we know them all?
What is PEG?

polyethylene glycol, commonly used in solutions when freezing something to =80C.

Here's the info from the monograph -
What are the ingredients in Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine? Medicinal ingredient: mRNA Non-medicinal ingredients:  ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate)  ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide  1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine  cholesterol  dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate  monobasic potassium phosphate  potassium chloride  sodium chloride  sucrose  water for injection

 

[Waterfall]

polyethylene glycol, commonly used in solutions when freezing something to =80C.

Here's the info from the monograph -
What are the ingredients in Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine? Medicinal ingredient: mRNA Non-medicinal ingredients:  ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate)  ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide  1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine  cholesterol  dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate  monobasic potassium phosphate  potassium chloride  sodium chloride  sucrose  water for injection

I wonder how we're supposed to know if we're allergic if we don't even know what half of the ingrediants are?
Anything stand out to you we should know? I mean really is everyone going to look it all up?

 

[ChemGal]

I wonder how we're supposed to know if we're allergic if we don't even know what half of the ingrediants are?
Anything stand out to you we should know? I mean really is everyone going to look it all up?

Have you had a severe reaction to something before? If you have, it's a good idea to try to pinpoint it as much as possible.

The first 4 ingredients would be things that are part of the delivery system/to stability the mRNA as best as I can tell. The rest are fairly typical in solutions, keep the correct ionic strength, help with solubility, etc.