TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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"The new budget legislation will trigger a trillion-dollar deficit, or come very close to that...There's an awful lot of pork in it. You'd think it would fund the critical needs of our country. Does it? Not even close. It does pretty much the opposite of what was voted for in ’16."
--Tucker Carlson
(i still miss his bowtie)
 
The U.S. is a crashing empire. The only remaining question is whether the nation itself will survive the crash. Trump will almost certainly try something soon to avert the crash.
 
The astonishing thing that the media haven't noticed is that the American forces have been extremely mediocre since 1945. They can bomb and starve civilians with ease. But they haven't done well against even scratch armies. I don't see how the armed forces that couldn't defeat Afghanistan or Vietnam or North Korea, whose only victories have been against the smallest and least military states, can possibly challenge either Russia or China (or both).

I suppose it can with five thousand or so nuclear weapons. But the others have them too.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
The astonishing thing that the media haven't noticed is that the American forces have been extremely mediocre since 1945. They can bomb and starve civilians with ease. But they haven't done well against even scratch armies. I don't see how the armed forces that couldn't defeat Afghanistan or Vietnam or North Korea, whose only victories have been against the smallest and least military states, can possibly challenge either Russia or China (or both).

I suppose it can with five thousand or so nuclear weapons. But the others have them too.
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Fear requires a large defense ... especially if your sub-conscience tells you about how your free desires are going to come back at yah ... in difficult domains to understand ... without mental construction!
 
Another sign of US decline is that mercenaries (hired killers at very high prices) now make up half of its land strength.
And the most dangerous thing - millions of Americans oppose Trump - but they have virtually nobody to choose as an alternative, and very little sense of alternatives to the present regime.

That, of course, has a lot to do with the fact that the government is not in control. It's the billionaires who are.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Another sign of US decline is that mercenaries (hired killers at very high prices) now make up half of its land strength.
And the most dangerous thing - millions of Americans oppose Trump - but they have virtually nobody to choose as an alternative, and very little sense of alternatives to the present regime.

That, of course, has a lot to do with the fact that the government is not in control. It's the billionaires who are.
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Can the paradigm image that? Must! They don't seem to believe such images of political folly ...
 
The US empire doesn't have 800 years to fall. It has, maybe, ten.

Remember, too, that the American empire has lived some 400 years. All of its mainland as taken by conquest - as was Hawaii and all its current holdings - as in The Phillipines, middle east, Africa, Asia.....
 
Graeme Decarie said:
The US empire doesn't have 800 years to fall. It has, maybe, ten.

Remember, too, that the American empire has lived some 400 years. All of its mainland as taken by conquest - as was Hawaii and all its current holdings - as in The Phillipines, middle east, Africa, Asia.....
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Well, except that most of that was all part of the British Empire or other European empires until the nineteenth or twentieth century. There cannot be, by definition, an American Empire prior to 1776 when they themselves broke out of the British Empire. And many of the territories you list did not come under American away until much later.
 
Yes. It's splitting hairs to separate the American empire from the British Empire, but technically correct. However, the British who did the expanding were the same people we would later call Americans. Indeed, Washington served in this as a British officer.

And yes, the exterior American expansion doesn't come until the 1880s or so with Hawaii, and then with Cuba. But I didn't suggest they all went back 400 years. (Actually, the exterior expansion and attempts at it came earlier than I suggest above. The failed attempt was Canada in 1812. The first successful one into a western society outside present U.S. borders was Mexico. The Alamo and all that. That why places in Texas, California, Arizona and Nevada commonly have Spanish names.)
 
Timelines I looked at suggest 400 years for the British Empire, after 800 years of Roman. So, your timeliners suggest 150 years max for American Empire. So, I repeat my question: are we looking at the end game of Risk, where "empires" last shorter and shorter times?
 
I don't know. The destructive impact of modern war, the widespread availability of powerful weapons.....
The timeline for the U.S. empire, even giving away those pre-1776 years, is 250 years.
 
No. I don't think it's over. We haven't developed any alternative. That's what we were supposed to do after 1945. The UN was supposed to be the starting point. But we've thrown all those years away.
The U.S., which was supposed to be a leader, instead chose to please its billionaires and set out to create a whole world American Empire. And even now, that is the ambition of the billionaires.

graeme
 
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