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I just read about it and saw pictures. The article said it was a Federal Police building, built in 1966 and abandoned in 2002. I have to wonder how the government, who owned this huge city high rise building, could leave it abandoned - do nothing with it to make it safer, or convert it, to repurpose it, or to excavate it - for 16 years?
 
Kimmio said:
I just read about it and saw pictures. The article said it was a Federal Police building, built in 1966 and abandoned in 2002. I have to wonder how the government, who owned this huge city high rise building, could leave it abandoned for 16 years?
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The Federal Union (the owner of all the Federal Government buildings and goods in general) owns a scandalous number of abandoned buildings, houses, apartments and condos. Just in Rio de Janeiro, the Union, the State, and the Municipality own more than 5000 abandoned/empty properties.
 
We have buildings abandoned in Canada for that length of time as well. And without proper security. You basically need a security service to keep a building vacant. People will find a way in. No one wants to pay for security, and no one wants to pay to tear it down.
 
chansen said:
We have buildings abandoned in Canada for that length of time as well. And without proper security. You basically need a security service to keep a building vacant. People will find a way in. No one wants to pay for security, and no one wants to pay to tear it down.
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The problem is that the Government should lead the example. If they don't do it, how they expect people will obey the law?
Also, when those buildings start to be emptied, the Government should plan its social destination.
 
I guess, yeah. There was an old building here - right by tourist shops - that the owner refused to sell until she died. A few years ago, I think she died. It sat empty, covered in graffiti with weeds growing around it for about 20 years or more. It was a moderate sized brick building. Not a huge tall building but was most likely hazardous. It was a thorn in the side of the City. It's now a renovated condo complex. I guess some real estate developers bought it. Maybe the City should've bought it and made it into low income housing. But they probably saw this as a golden gentrification opportunity.
 
Every time people fix neighborhoods they gentrify it and send the low-income population away. Too sad.
It happened during the last decade in Rio's harbor. It was a low-income zone neighboring downtown; now, several high-profile skyscrapers are sending the poor away by closing traditional stores and replacing them with luxury ones. The old residents cannot afford the place anymore.
 
Good question. A mix of bad management, malfunction, lack of interest, bureaucracy and corruption...
 
Kimmio said:
I just don't see how it's in anyone's interest for them to leave 5000 buildings abandoned. Theirs, neither.
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Bureaucracy, mainly; the majority are properties seized due to fiscal debts. Then the Government seizes them, put'em in a pile of papers, and takes years to figure out what to do.
Nowadays things are faster and generally, they are auctioned as soon as they're seized. But the ones seized before this law remain in the paper pile.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
@Seeler - is your church still dry?
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I hope! At 3 blocks from the river, it was just above the flooded area in the 2008 flood. Ironically we had a seminar with David Suzuki that week so I was downtown every day - saw water three feet deep on the main street. This flood is expected to reach similar levels. I will find out more in a few hours. This is my volunteer day helping provide food for those in need. If the church is accesssible and open. I'll phone someone before we venture out.

I am concerned aboutt one of the churches down river where I sometimes lead worship. It is one of the oldest churches in Canada - featured last year for July on the UCC calendar. It has sometimes been surrounded on all sides by flood water.

An asside - the fact that the St. John river floods periodically (though usually not nearly as bad as this) makes the farm land down river from Fredericton some of the richest possible.
 
Really enjoying that my hematologist is one of the doctor involved with doing a trial of patients having access to certain online records. I had a blood test yesterday - results were available very quickly. I had them all by this morning, some yesterday evening (and I wasn't getting the blood drawn early). Not only can I see what these results are, I can piece together things that my doctors cannot without asking me more detailed questions. I have results regardless of whether it's been done with a lab at dynalife or the hospital.

For example, years ago I was taking B12 oral supplements. My blood test value rose quickly. I'm now getting injections and have been quite some time, my levels still aren't what they were back when the oral supplements made a quick difference.

I can also see that during long-term better periods my WBC was lower. Times when I tend to be lower in energy and not feeling so well more severely/frequently this value is higher, sometimes abnormally so, but other times it's just high within the normal range so it doesn't get flagged and doesn't get brought up.

Right now, I can't draw conclusions about what needs to be done, but at least I can have a better informed conversation to my doctor to hopefully eventually get there.

I don't know why it took so long to get here.
 
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