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Luce NDs

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Good morning! Happy Saturday! As we celebrate new births, and give thanks for good pharmacists, let us join around the cart in community and conversation. All is ready, come and get it.

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Don't be too free with your celebratory activity ... someone will object as they just don't like it!

I once was happy with a lot of things and people complained about me!
 

ChemGal

One with keen eye
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I connected with others with hepatic adenomatosis a while ago on facebook. No specific group for that,, just the hepatocellular adenomas but we find each other there. I feel like it's about half of us with adenomatosis who were told we had metastatic cancer initially. Some doctors even gave non-life expectancies, no you have about 6 months, but moreso you won't be around for the next X. It's really amazing how many doctors just sort of throw in the towel with us and say these things without verification.
It's not even like there's much that matches with metastatic cancer - tumours, sometimes anemia, sometimes slightly elevated white cell count, sometimes elevated liver enzymes. My hematologist put the pieces together - didn't know what it was, knew metastatic cancer wasn't right and liver cancer wasn't a fit either. More doctors really need that sense too.

I also think we get short shafted afterwards. The liver docs - whether it's surgeons or hepatologists aren't connected to the news we were given initially. We don't get the type of resources that come with a cancer diagnosis. The Canadian Liver Foundation doesn't even have anything, I submitted a question on a Q&A session and the experts won't even say adenomatosis.

Just my rant after seeing another person who was needlessly traumatized by a doctor.
 

Redbaron

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Good morning, all! Today marks Reign of Christ Sunday, the last Sunday of the liturgical calendar. We also try to offer support for those who are wrongly diagnosed by the medical profession, and the resulting needless shock. Anyway, the cart is ready, emjoy.

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Luce NDs

Well-Known Member
I connected with others with hepatic adenomatosis a while ago on facebook. No specific group for that,, just the hepatocellular adenomas but we find each other there. I feel like it's about half of us with adenomatosis who were told we had metastatic cancer initially. Some doctors even gave non-life expectancies, no you have about 6 months, but moreso you won't be around for the next X. It's really amazing how many doctors just sort of throw in the towel with us and say these things without verification.
It's not even like there's much that matches with metastatic cancer - tumours, sometimes anemia, sometimes slightly elevated white cell count, sometimes elevated liver enzymes. My hematologist put the pieces together - didn't know what it was, knew metastatic cancer wasn't right and liver cancer wasn't a fit either. More doctors really need that sense too.

I also think we get short shafted afterwards. The liver docs - whether it's surgeons or hepatologists aren't connected to the news we were given initially. We don't get the type of resources that come with a cancer diagnosis. The Canadian Liver Foundation doesn't even have anything, I submitted a question on a Q&A session and the experts won't even say adenomatosis.

Just my rant after seeing another person who was needlessly traumatized by a doctor.

Authority seems to believe they have a right to traumatize without negative feedback ... that would resemble negative thought!
 

Redbaron

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Good morning, all! A new day is starting, with writing projects, work and leisure plans, planning and shopping, etc. Let us start the day with hot beverages, and conversation, as we gather in spirit around the coffee cart. Enjoy.

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Luce NDs

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How about a warm mug of wart(s) ... just to place some expansive fomentation in the way ... frog's world ... consuming bugs in the system!

Many times just a bubble ...
 

jimkenney12

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Finishing breakfast, mentally preparing to personal admin stuff including tasks almost three months old. Thinking about Chremgal's medical issues and connecting to story on CBC radio about parents whose child fell backwards, then had loss of functioning on left side of his body. Had to go to three hospitals to get the medical care he needed. First two hospitals diagnosed his problem as a sprain. Third hospital did a CT scan which revealed he had a stroke. Doctors said stroke is so rare in children that young they would not normally consider it. Harari in Homo Deus described how computer AI medical programs have a higher success rate than specialists because the computer relies totally on symptoms and data without forming judgements before getting the data.
 

Luce NDs

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Finishing breakfast, mentally preparing to personal admin stuff including tasks almost three months old. Thinking about Chremgal's medical issues and connecting to story on CBC radio about parents whose child fell backwards, then had loss of functioning on left side of his body. Had to go to three hospitals to get the medical care he needed. First two hospitals diagnosed his problem as a sprain. Third hospital did a CT scan which revealed he had a stroke. Doctors said stroke is so rare in children that young they would not normally consider it. Harari in Homo Deus described how computer AI medical programs have a higher success rate than specialists because the computer relies totally on symptoms and data without forming judgements before getting the data.

Perhaps because of computers just don't care about opinions and thus people rise in great tempests ...

A strange power is said to pose this in real people so as to form a temptation to do something they will learn from as paeyn forward ... those ahead get it in the R's from certain followings! Imagine if there was a domain of pure logic and wisdom ... wouldn't that be alien? It would sap the disposition into sapience ... etc. and so on ... a vast baffling Wahl in the night! Dark*eh?

Such things may entertain the vast unknown ... you can't see it from here ...
 

Redbaron

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Good morning, all! The coffee cart is up and ready to help you with your virtual hot beverage needs. There may even be some muffins around. Anyway, help yourself.

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Nancy

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So nice to enjoy a beverage here Redbaron. Thanks for being so consistent. I am living in a snowy winter wonderland these days. I have my son's big dog to walk until they think they can handle both dog and new baby. The big dog is sure giving me a workout! Yesterday I fell twice on the slippery roads...not good for someone with an artificial hip! It wasn't the dog's fault. Today, I stuck to sidewalks and it went much better. And the dog is beginning to behave a little better for me too. Whew.
 

BetteTheRed

Resident Heretic
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If it's a pulling issue, Nancy, I find my hound much more manageable with some sort of gentle leader/halti sort of arrangement. Fits around their muzzle, loosely, until they pull.
 

Mendalla

Agnostic pan(en)theist gorilla
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I was outside briefly this morning. Had a guy grinding a stump. Chilly but no snow save a light dusting. Nice day otherwise, though there are supposed to be flurries later.
 

BetteTheRed

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We got a pretty solid 6-8". Even though it's supposed to get up to 7 tomorrow, I think I will have to get out shovels and tidy it up a bit. Plow did the end, but then sidewalk plow was by.
 

Northwind

Still knitting. Walking the path to health.
Good morning. We're enjoying a sunny day today. They are calling for storms for the next few days after this. Prayers may be needed for the flooded areas of the Lower Mainland and interior.

I agree a Halti or Gentle Leader is a great investment for a dog that pulls. I also learned a trick when I walked dogs for the SPCA if you don't want to spend money. It involves wrapping the leash around the dog's belly. Here's an article that shows the technique: Instant no pull trick It works well and doesn't hurt the dog.
 

ChemGal

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I don't think the snow we had is going away any time soon. It was a bit of a weird start, we really didn't have any flurries, on occasion there would be rain with a bit of oh, there's something frozen in with it at times, or the type of flurries where you have to look for a few fakes. No dustings of snow.
Then it turned very quickly into a good dumping of snow. Some melted since then, but I expect the grass to be covered unless we hit a long patch of warmer weather.
 

Redbaron

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Good morning! From walking the dog, or the dog walking us, to weather of all kinds across the continent, it all gets discussed (or at least mentioned) here. The coffee cart is up and running once again, help yourself.

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Luce NDs

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More stimulants and stigmata's ... when I was looking for some endorphins to create a giggle ... let it SET a rest ... thus ... ζ ... the Zeta index ... a sign of something alien ... a medical malfunction? Isn't that a sick situation ... like mentally? It was suggested by atmon some millenia ago ... but as usual ignored as in the directive; "do no harm!"

And yet, what do we do ...
 

Mendalla

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Still no snow but it was quite cold when I went to the mailbox last night. Time to get the parka out, me thinks, if this keeps up.
 
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