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Waterfall said:
True, but it is what it is....better now than never.
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And there is that ever prevant attitude to live for the moment! The past and the future is out of question ... expect irony and satyrs cause we folk are not allowed to know or speak of it! Conspiracies thus remain obscure ... or at least obtuse as wisdom (forbidden thing by god)!
 
I think in Jan, it would have been hard to stock up. China would have needed a fair bit then. I'm not really sure what was around for various places to buy. There are also some ethical issues there, does Canada say stock up in case of need when places like Italy have the need? I image after this there will be a push to have the supplies on hand for something like this, but the next time around it's not going to be the same thing and something that is needed we won't have a bunch of extras on hand.
 
I've been thinking about this too. I had a doctor's appointment in about the third week of January. I was there to ask about getting the flu and pneumonia vaccines. My doctor commented about three things coming our way. The usual flu and pneumonia as well as covid. I had the sense he was doing his homework and that was reassuring. It was also clear, the virus risk was known at that point.

Still, human nature is such that we sometimes need to be clobbered over the head metaphorically before we respond. What would ever have made us realize the full out impact of this? We've never experienced anything on this scale. At least in our lived experiences. Hindsight is 20/20. We know now and thankfully there are people responding. Time will tell whether we learn from this.
 
I thought it was interesting in the noon news conference today that there is also the realization of improving "local" production (including sourcing raw materials) to make much of this stuff, to reduce reliance (and hence vulnerability) on other countries in a situation such as this. It will be interesting to me to see how much of the 'retooling' etc continues to be production sources once this current crisis settles. Or perhaps a continued diversification of manufacturing & production. New market niches have perhaps been discovered.
 
There was an interview on CBC this morning, not sure who the lady was that was interviewed, but it was about families taking their loved ones home out of LTC. She didn’t say exactly, don’t do it, but she guided some thoughts people should have before making the decision. She said, first, remember the process that happened to get your loved one into LTC. The decision that led to it, the care he/ she needed to have and the reasons why this was not possible to provide at home. Then think about at what level of care your loved one is right now, is it the same, better or worse, and what are the circumstances at home.
I couldn’t listen to the full interview, because I had arrived at work and had to get in. I suspect that in NS you also will loose you spot and go at the bottom of the wait list, if it doesn’t work out. At least, that’s what it was until now.
But what the danger of this is, is, that if the family can’t cope, the relative will be admitted to the hospital, amidst the Corona situation- not exactly a reduced risk for the person.
Why not holding the spot for the resident?
Right now, homes are quarantined, visitors are not allowed, to protect from outside infections. If people go home and fail, you would have to deal with isolating all those additional residents. And how long would you keep their spot- one month, two months, while someone else is waiting in a hospital to get out of there.
 
Carolla said:
I thought it was interesting in the noon news conference today that there is also the realization of improving "local" production (including sourcing raw materials) to make much of this stuff, to reduce reliance (and hence vulnerability) on other countries in a situation such as this. It will be interesting to me to see how much of the 'retooling' etc continues to be production sources once this current crisis settles. Or perhaps a continued diversification of manufacturing & production. New market niches have perhaps been discovered.
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Here's some interesting contributions from wonderful kids:

Boy Scout prints ear guards on 3D printer:

interestingengineering.com

Boy Scout 3D Prints Numerous "Ear Guards" to Help Medical Staff Suffering From Face Masks

It is true that not all heroes wear capes: this one wears Boy Scouts uniforms.
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and face masks, also from a 3D printer:

calgary.ctvnews.ca

Okotoks boy uses Christmas gift to make PPE face shields

A Christmas present a young boy received is allowing him to give back to the people fighting to protect southern Albertans during the COVID-19 pandemic.
calgary.ctvnews.ca calgary.ctvnews.ca
 
Waterfall said:
Here's some interesting contributions from wonderful kids:

Boy Scout prints ear guards on 3D printer:

interestingengineering.com

Boy Scout 3D Prints Numerous "Ear Guards" to Help Medical Staff Suffering From Face Masks

It is true that not all heroes wear capes: this one wears Boy Scouts uniforms.
interestingengineering.com interestingengineering.com

and face masks, also from a 3D printer:

calgary.ctvnews.ca

Okotoks boy uses Christmas gift to make PPE face shields

A Christmas present a young boy received is allowing him to give back to the people fighting to protect southern Albertans during the COVID-19 pandemic.
calgary.ctvnews.ca calgary.ctvnews.ca
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I sent the first link to my son to make me one- those masks interfere with my hearing aids. Spend the afternoon today trying different things made out of splinting material, but its not perfect yet.
 
I agree. Being financially smart is important. I wish the high schools did more work on teaching students about planning and budgeting when they do their civics courses

at this point a lot will be down money. Whether you are your own your own stocks, or participate in a work place pension plan or a work place mutual fund. i Expect thee are a lot of retirees who are worried. And interesting article a day or so ago about the issue of paying rent

lots of small businesses are hoping for government help to pay rent. Makes sense. Government forced them to close

but landlords are also struggling. Article was about a retired couple who own a building with tenants. It is part of the income they live on. So if rent isn’t paid, they don’t have money to pay the mortgage. Or eat themselves

we will see a lot of people suffer financially through this. And we will e paying for it for a long time
 
A good news story in this trying time. And it is good news at how much people are helping out in ways that they haven’t before. We have become so distant from each other , in big cities at least. I expect small towns have continued to be neighborly. But we are seeing a lot of good coming out of people
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Right now, homes are quarantined, visitors are not allowed, to protect from outside infections.
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Just now recieved a call from Garry's Dad's Assisted Living Residence in Winnipeg. No more entrance into the building at all on weekends. During the weekdays ... you are allowed to gain entrance to the front Lobby and drop off parcels which will be distributed to residents by 'essential' staff. Should you wish to accompany one of the residents on a walk around the building ... it can be arranged for that resident to be brought to the lobby to meet you. Basically Garry's 97 year old Dad is paying upwards of $4000. a month to maintain his spot in this environment. He is handling it well so far. He has no major complaints when we talk on the phone. He has never used the internet ... but he has delivery of the Winnipeg Free Press to his door and his Television is seldom turned off. Last time Garry was there he received compliments of Dad a stack of methodically folded crossword puzzles that Dad had continued to cut out of the papers for him. Garry used to have supper with his Dad at least once a week and visited him at least 4 days a week. As long as Dad remains cheerful on the phone we are not overly concerned with these new arrangements.
 
Ritafee said:
Just now recieved a call from Garry's Dad's Assisted Living Residence in Winnipeg. No more entrance into the building at all on weekends. During the weekdays ... you are allowed to gain entrance to the front Lobby and drop off parcels which will be distributed to residents by 'essential' staff. Should you wish to accompany one of the residents on a walk around the building ... it can be arranged for that resident to be brought to the lobby to meet you. Basically Garry's 97 year old Dad is paying upwards of $4000. a month to maintain his spot in this environment. He is handling it well so far. He has no major complaints when we talk on the phone. He has never used the internet ... but he has delivery of the Winnipeg Free Press to his door and his Television is seldom turned off. Last time Garry was there he received compliments of Dad a stack of methodically folded crossword puzzles that Dad had continued to cut out of the papers for him. Garry used to have supper with his Dad at least once a week and visited him at least 4 days a week. As long as Dad remains cheerful on the phone we are not overly concerned with these new arrangements.
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Isn't walking with a resident around the outside of the building and then bringing them back inside defeating the purpose of a lockdown?
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
I sent the first link to my son to make me one- those masks interfere with my hearing aids. Spend the afternoon today trying different things made out of splinting material, but its not perfect yet.
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I have seen some people using a simple elasticized headband/hairband & sewing a button on each side to hook the mask elastic around, to avoid friction on the tender ears. Works for the simple surgical type mask, not for an N95 tho. Never thought about hearing aid interference tho ... very good point.
 
Waterfall said:
Isn't walking with a resident around the outside of the building and then bringing them back inside defeating the purpose of a lockdown?
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Are you suggesting that they should not be allowed outside at all ... as in you would like this 97 year old person to spend the rest of his life in a prison cell if that is what it takes to keep him safe?
 
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