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Embezzlement is theft, pure and simple. If there is evidence of it happening, then measures must be taken stop it. And even in the absence of it actually happening, an organization's financial processes need to take account of it as a possible risk and be designed to prevent that risk..
 
Which is what is happening....Everything is being put into place to prevent the possibility. But the individual in question is putting a 'spin' on things that does not match what really happened. The individual is also a pathological liar. The individual is also kind in many ways, and does a lot of good things as well. Very confusing.
 
Lots of good things at church this week, with a hint of something not-so-good. Some people who get involved in churches might find it easy to embezzle money. And if any of us have a suspicion about that, we feel absolutely horrible. It goes against everything we try to be. Things are being put in place to prevent this possibility, but the individual is getting mad and will probably leave the church.

There's a rumor floating around that someone embezzled money? Wow, just wow.

I missed church this past Sunday due to being home ill.
 
Lots of good things at church this week, with a hint of something not-so-good. Some people who get involved in churches might find it easy to embezzle money. And if any of us have a suspicion about that, we feel absolutely horrible. It goes against everything we try to be. Things are being put in place to prevent this possibility, but the individual is getting mad and will probably leave the church.

It is a difficult thing to go against authority that believe they have all rights!
 
Not a rumour. A private talk with the treasurer who is trying to figure out where the money went. The individual has stopped coming to church after being asked to work with the treasurer to find the missing money.
 
Church today was uplifting. Our minister has been with us now for almost a decade. When she first came she was not known as a great speaker. It took her awhile to get to know the congregation, to relate to us, and to feel comfortable in the pulpit. Her voice and manner were not exciting or ccompelling. (she replaced two very dynamic men.) But lately her message has been right on. Without mentioning names she compares the political situation in Palestine in Jesus time with the situation we find ourselves in today and encourages us to be like salt and like light in the world.
It puzzled me that the volunteer reader read the beatitudes from Matthew - the same passage was read last week - before reading the passage on salt and light but she explained to me after the service that was intentional as she wanted it fresh in our minds as she went into her message. She is intelligent, well-informed, and passionate - if we could just get that passion into her delivery.

We closed with "We Shall Go Out with Hope of Resurrection" - a favoourite, uplifting hymn.
 
Church today was uplifting. Our minister has been with us now for almost a decade. When she first came she was not known as a great speaker. It took her awhile to get to know the congregation, to relate to us, and to feel comfortable in the pulpit. Her voice and manner were not exciting or ccompelling. (she replaced two very dynamic men.) But lately her message has been right on. Without mentioning names she compares the political situation in Palestine in Jesus time with the situation we find ourselves in today and encourages us to be like salt and like light in the world.
It puzzled me that the volunteer reader read the beatitudes from Matthew - the same passage was read last week - before reading the passage on salt and light but she explained to me after the service that was intentional as she wanted it fresh in our minds as she went into her message. She is intelligent, well-informed, and passionate - if we could just get that passion into her delivery.

We closed with "We Shall Go Out with Hope of Resurrection" - a favoourite, uplifting hymn.

Those red-headed dam's ...
 
I led worship at two country churches today....totalled 25 people between the two. I don't know how these little country churches can keep going.
 
I led worship at two country churches today....totalled 25 people between the two. I don't know how these little country churches can keep going.

Ouch. I've preached to 25 in one service but spread across 2? That's really stretching things thin. Are they in the same charge or are they separate charges?
 
Church was terrible today. Absolutely shameful. The preacher blabbed on and on, putting everyone to sleep.
 
Ouch. I've preached to 25 in one service but spread across 2? That's really stretching things thin. Are they in the same charge or are they separate charges?
Two different churches....a two-point charge. I really like the people there, but I also feel sad about the decline.
 
Nancy, I've led worship in pastoral charges with only about a dozen in one church and often less than 20 in another, yet the Spirit was present and the people devoted. One thing in their favour is that their expenses are low. They sit on pproperty that was once part of a pasture or woodlot, surrounded by a graveyard, in an old wooden building - more a liability than an asset should they try to sell it. They heat it for two hours on Sunday, and only use electricity for that time. Quite possibly there is on plumbing. Music, secretarial, cleaning and maintenance are all done by faithful volunteers. The main expense is salary for a part time minister. Yet as long as the building stands and they are still able to call a minister they turn out regularly for worship and support. They contribute to the food bank and the Christmas fund. They have a moment for mission and give to M&S, and they take care of each other. A few years ago in a friendly rivallry between the two churches they folded 1000 paper cranes as they prayed for peace. There were cranes on the windowsills, the pulpit, the stairs to the unused balcony.
I remind myself -- 'Wherever two or three are gathered together ...''
 
You are so right-on Seeler. That describes these two churches as well. They don't have a minister at all; rely on LLWL most of the time, and retired ordained ministers for the sacraments. I go there about 4 or 5 times a year. One congregation member at one of the churches usually looks at me with hostility for some reason. I'd come to accept it. Today, she went out of her way to shake my hand and smile.

I continued the theme I had started last week at another church -- the high standards of the Sermon on the Mount. Interestingly, one person thanked me and said, "Most of the time we just say...Oh well, that's impossible", but we don't really explore why Jesus said what he did. She said she enjoyed the thoughts that I provoked.
 
A sad note at church today - a middle-aged medical doctor, semi-active in the congregation, with a wife and two young adult children too his own life this past week. I know the family. His mother-in-law is one of my closest friends. Hard to understand - nice home in one of the 'better' parts of town, inground pool, etc., children independent (the girl is also a doctor), he should be looking forward to retirement, time and money to travel, maybe grandchildren within a few years. Sad.

Other than that church was good. Our minister is really hitting the nail on the head recently. Today's sermon was based on the 1st Corinthians reading about the master builder building on a firm foundation. Closing hymn, a favourite from More Voices - Let us Build a House. And today we welcomed into our congregation a 4 month old baby recently adopted by two mothers. A life gone another just beginning.

Then we had lunch and the AGM. We are in the black, and looking good. And we approved a major overhall to our church building - first of three stages. We will maintain our beautiful, old, historic building, and tear apart and rebuild the basement space into a modern hall and kitchen to replace the many small rooms. When that is finished, probably within a year, we will move much of the church life down to these rooms, slightly below street level. Then, if approved at the next AGM we will tear down the adjoining building which was built in the 1960s for a gym, kitchen, and large parlor but that is difficult to heat, bigger than we need, and with terrible acoustics. Big projects. Looking ahead with optimism.
 
An interesting and disturbing service today. A play about what it was like for children who were torn away from their family and their culture and put into the residential schools. Also, drumming and haunting singing by a first nations elder who also spoke about the way things have been ever since the European's first arrived. It is much more than the residential schools. Also, Rev. Bill Phipps read some of the apology from the United Church to First Nations people. Then the service concluded with a fire drill driving everybody out into the cold...interesting timing given the theme of the worship this day.
 
An interesting and disturbing service today. A play about what it was like for children who were torn away from their family and their culture and put into the residential schools. Also, drumming and haunting singing by a first nations elder who also spoke about the way things have been ever since the European's first arrived. It is much more than the residential schools. Also, Rev. Bill Phipps read some of the apology from the United Church to First Nations people. Then the service concluded with a fire drill driving everybody out into the cold...interesting timing given the theme of the worship this day.

Interesting - I would have liked to be there. What church is this?
 
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