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Hi Jim! It's good to see you again.
Hope you are better by Christmas. Also, anytime you are home on Sunday if you want to worship with us at Hillhurst our service is at 10:45 a.m. on Facebook (which would be 12:45 p.m. for you folks in Central Canada.I kept my germy self at home yesterday ... nasty Christmas cold - which I may well have picked up at church the week prior! LOL. Anyway, am starting to feel slightly better ... fingers crossed for continuing that trend so I can enjoy the family Christmas celebrations.
That's an excellent reminder - thank you for that! Is there a Christmas eve service?Hope you are better by Christmas. Also, anytime you are home on Sunday if you want to worship with us at Hillhurst our service is at 10:45 a.m. on Facebook (which would be 12:45 p.m. for you folks in Central Canada.
Sounds to me like the relevant committee, or at least representatives thereof, need to have a chat with her and see if some kind of support is needed. When someone's performance goes downhill like that, there is usually a reason and it may not be work-related (health, family, etc.).And on Christmas Eve, she threatened to apply to a different church when she thought she wasn't getting her sizable Christmas bonus. (After admitting to not preparing anything new all of December...just borrowing from past services and making a big deal about why we shouldn't have a Christmas Eve service!). Not sure what is going on with her
It seems a bit odd to me to have a bonus for a minister depending on his/ her performance. What would you measure performance by? Increase in bums in the pew? Number of marriages and funerals? How many people like the sermons?( how do you determine that number?). If a bonus is meant as a Christmas gift, it should be part of the contract/ agreement with the congregation and independent from performance. There are 300+ critics in the pews, who is the one to determine the performance? Considering that ministers hardly ever can skip Christmas and go somewhere else with their family, a bonus might be just an acknowledgement of that ( but should be in the contract).I have sometimes received a bonus. I have never expected one. Though money does follow my service, it does nothing to motivate that service.
Yeah, I mean in the corporate world it's usually tied to making budget or achieving a sales target or similar measurable goals (e.g. I get a bonus if we achieve budget overall since I work at the corporate level, branch staff are tied specifically to the performance of their branch) but a church doesn't necessarily have measurable goals like that, at least that can be solely pinned on the minister (e.g. congregational growth or increased givings are measurable goals but aren't entirely, or even mainly, the minister's purview, the board and committees do a lot of that work). To my mind, the bonus would just be a "gift" for lasting another year rather than a true bonus in the classic sense.It seems a bit odd to me to have a bonus for a minister depending on his/ her performance.
I'd call that bluff.Nancy said:Our minister is losing some pep lately and not delivering new or inspirational messages. Not sure what to do about that...And on Christmas Eve, she threatened to apply to a different church when she thought she wasn't getting her sizable Christmas bonus.