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Waterfall said:
Are the conditions of the factories in China acceptable to you for your purchases? Realize I shop in these places too, but I don't really know what I'm promoting when buying.
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Yes - I don't mind that most of the stuff is made in China. Tell you what - though - if you can direct me to a store selling Canadian-made stuff that's as convenient and inexpensive as Dollarama - I will switch.
 
Pr. Jae said:
Yes - I don't mind that most of the stuff is made in China. Tell you what - though - if you can direct me to a store selling Canadian-made stuff that's as convenient and inexpensive as Dollarama - I will switch.
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Buying Canadian, supporting the local economy and being kinder to the environment is not always cheap and easy PrJae
 
Isn't it awesome, waterfall, that humanity can make such wonders in abundance and so affordable? To shop there is a Christian act, an act of worship...

I totally love some dollarstores -- I can get one of my comfort foods, a Kraft Dinner knock off for 50 cents a box. Canned meats. Dollarstores are where I shop for party decorations. Streamers. Gift bags. Cheap drinks. OMG CHIPFLIX! Pet supplies. Nrg drinks. Kitchen supplies. The roofer blowup dolls

They're harbingers of the future that is coming, with a true free market, where workers will be able to freely work wherever they want to, where a nation's borders, just like our own identity, is shown for what it is, not a causeless cause and a definite boundary, but a relationship, a fuzzy predictive social game...

've learned to be aware, tho -- just 'cause something is sold in a dollar store doesn't mean yer automatically getting the best bang for my buck
 
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Perhaps one of the answers to the moral question of supporting an economy that depends upon sweatshops would be to limit your purchasing. Try to get by with less. Reduce, reuse, recycle. How many T-shirts do you need anyway? Does your winter coat really need to be replaced? Do you really need candles, nick-nacks, plastic containers? Do you use too much dish-detergent? Wipe grease off the frying pan with a newpaper, and then wash in really hot water with just a drop of detergent. Are you careful with your clothes and do you wear them several times between washes? Cut your spending, and use what you save to buy local - farmers' market, etc.
 
Stop spending today. Who cares if the economy goes right down the toilet. Eh - Seeler,
 
Pr. Jae said:
Stop spending today. Who cares if the economy goes right down the toilet. Eh - Seeler,
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Not much to worry aboot there, Jae...most consumer spending comes from people getting mortgages & the spending around parenting & motherhood & those are never going to stop
 
Pr. Jae said:
Stop spending today. Who cares if the economy goes right down the toilet. Eh - Seeler,
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An economy that is based on encouraging spending to the point where many of its citizens are mired in debt is an economy that is going to fail eventually. Some frugality would actually save us some pain down the road.
 
In case you are serious Jae - I think that buying a lot of things we don't need, and especially over-spending and going into debt, or ending up buying cheap imports rather than quality local, is going to save the economy.

It is true that buying things puts money into the economy. So, let's raise taxes on those who can afford it, and put the money into the hands of the people who will spend it on the necessities of living. Let's give everyone an opportunity to live in a decent house or apartment, put nourishing food on the table, dress appropriately for the climate and activity, provide life-long education opportunities, and a bit for fun or entertainment.
 
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another person who is trying to grok how the world really works and is now trying to communicate that information to us
 
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Seeler said:
In case you are serious Jae - I think that buying a lot of things we don't need, and especially over-spending and going into debt, or ending up buying cheap imports rather than quality local, is going to save the economy.

It is true that buying things puts money into the economy. So, let's raise taxes on those who can afford it, and put the money into the hands of the people who will spend it on the necessities of living. Let's give everyone an opportunity to live in a decent house or apartment, put nourishing food on the table, dress appropriately for the climate and activity, provide life-long education opportunities, and a bit for fun or entertainment.
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Why do those who can afford it deserve to have taxes raised yet again on them? Why penalize people for having done well?
 
unlike your g_d and religion, its not that simple, Jae :3

but then again, you're not all aboot actually engaging with Seeler, but rather just to sow chaos and discord

if you want an actual educated discussion, why not educate yourself aboot economics?

but no, you're on your retreat, not talking to anyone on WC

liar :3
 
Pr. Jae said:
Why do those who can afford it deserve to have taxes raised yet again on them? Why penalize people for having done well?
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With success comes a greater responsibility and that should be ingrained into the teachings of our society as well, not that they are being penalized.
 
Pr. Jae said:
Why do those who can afford it deserve to have taxes raised yet again on them? Why penalize people for having done well?
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Not everyone who "does well" starts off in the same place. Some people are born with more advantages, support, etc. Actually studies have shown that the more people have, the less likely they are to share (ratio wise).
 
Kimmio said:
Not everyone who "does well" starts off in the same place. Some people are born with more advantages, support, etc. Actually studies have shown that the more people have, the less likely they are to share (ratio wise).
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And your point is what ---? It's their money. It's not up to us to determine whether they should share it or not.
 
Waterfall said:
With success comes a greater responsibility and that should be ingrained into the teachings of our society as well, not that they are being penalized.
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I agree -- I also think that that should be noncoercive (unlike our current economics), in that it should be voluntary

A philosopher I like, Erich Fromm, said it best that the rich should have a kind of noblesse oblige (but not to the point of pitying those lesser than them) and the poor should not hate the rich.

Even the Dalai Lama seems to say that true world agape&compassion&lovingkindness&mindfulness will only happen when we start educating our children right from the get-go...that it is too late for us adults to do agape automatically...

 
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