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Mrs.Anteater said:
And your towns name is...?
I think you can be quite assured that we will not come looking for you if you disclose the name of your town.
And if you doctor is not getting vaccinated, why didn’t you ask him in the first place?
You are still looking like someone interested in spreading rumours rather than facts.
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To me, these thoughts are valuable, even the "gossip". Why? Because it prompted a good article to be posted ( thanks Redbaron) and we would be crazy to not acknowledge these thoughts and rumors exist.
To be honest we do need to admit that we really dont know all that much about the vaccines because what I'm hearing is another side and that is that the vaccines my be causing a false security that may or may not be there. Even the article that Redbaron posted mentioned " we are flying blind".
This may work but there is a possibility that it may not have the efficacy rate promised.
Hey it took over 30 years to realize how low the rate was for flu shots for the elderly...and even now its not a fact widely known.
We have to listen IMO....and not just to our desired outcomes.
 
Health care professionals are noticing that young people under 30 (especially 12-15) after receiving a Covid vaccine, may develop heart problems......should we offer vaccines to young people before we figure this out? Especially since they are a low risk group for Covid but of course may be a source for spreading.

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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.
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More mysterious rheumatoid factors ... then who knew that rheumatoid once stood for mysterious? It may be a strange domain for an alien psyche to sink into for examination ... thus we might ask ourselves more questions ...
 
2nd shot booked. Exactly 8 weeks after first. That's much sooner than I expected. However, mixed dose is now the norm for this health unit, so my second could be Moderna even though my first was Pfizer.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
And your towns name is...?
I think you can be quite assured that we will not come looking for you if you disclose the name of your town.
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When chansen was active here, he actually called my superintendent to try to create trouble for me. Fortunately, the superintendent visited the site, read my posts, and saw nothing wrong with them. So much for your bogus reassurance.
Mrs.Anteater said:
And if you doctor is not getting vaccinated, why didn’t you ask him in the first place?
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I did ask him. But he dodged the question by saying he is not in the most vulnerable age range.
 
I just had a visit with our newspaper editor. She said the rumor is partly true. A driver waiting in line did have a bad reaction to the vaccine that made him lose control of his breaks so that his car struck an emergency care worker. However, the report is false that the driver died. The emergency care worker was traumatized, but not injured enough for hospitalization. Nor was the driver hospitalized. I'm glad I spoke to her because my friends use the reported death to buttress their case for not taking the vaccine. But I guess the vehemence of the bad reaction to the vaccine may still deter them.

btw, when my doctor brother received the 2nd Pfizer vaccine, he was bedridden with flu-like symptoms for 2 days. He put a positive spin on this reaction, taking it to mean that the vaccine was working. A nurse told me that the 2nd shot is the one that most likely triggers a bad reaction, adding that if I drink extra glasses of water the day prior and the day of the 2nd vaccination, such a reaction would likely be avoided. I took her advice and experienced no symptoms.
 
We have known all along that occasionally people get a rapid and severe reaction to shots (not just this one either). Two days of feeling il is also listed as a possible reaction - it happened to my hubby. Neither of us got in a panic about it. I spoke with one of my adult kids and she had some of the nastier reactions she was told were possible. Her skin was super sensitive and touches felt like razor blades!
 
Waterfall said:
Health care professionals are noticing that young people under 30 (especially 12-15) after receiving a Covid vaccine, may develop heart problems......should we offer vaccines to young people before we figure this out? Especially since they are a low risk group for Covid but of course may be a source for spreading.

www.webmd.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.
www.webmd.com www.webmd.com

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I doubt that Mystic‘s physician is a teenage boy. And his friends likely aren’t either.
The vaccination of children is still discussed in Europe with recommendations tending towards only vaccinate children at risk.
 
Mystic said:
I just had a visit with our newspaper editor. She said the rumor is partly true. A driver waiting in line did have a bad reaction to the vaccine that made him lose control of his breaks so that his car struck an emergency care worker. However, the report is false that the driver died. The emergency care worker was traumatized, but not injured enough for hospitalization. Nor was the driver hospitalized. I'm glad I spoke to her because my friends use the reported death to buttress their case for not taking the vaccine. But I guess the vehemence of the bad reaction to the vaccine may still deter them.

btw, when my doctor brother received the 2nd Pfizer vaccine, he was bedridden with flu-like symptoms for 2 days. He put a positive spin on this reaction, taking it to mean that the vaccine was working. A nurse told me that the 2nd shot is the one that most likely triggers a bad reaction, adding that if I drink extra glasses of water the day prior and the day of the 2nd vaccination, such a reaction would likely be avoided. I took her advice and experienced no symptoms.
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So why spreading rumours in the first place.
People dumb enough to have the motor running while getting vaccinated should be excluded from that option.
A simple sneeze can make you slip of the brake.
 
I spread these reports because many base their decisions on them. That is itself makes them worth reporting and discussing.
It's instructive that local doctors always recommend the flu-vaccine, but leave the Covid vaccine to individual discretion.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
I doubt that Mystic‘s physician is a teenage boy. And his friends likely aren’t either.
The vaccination of children is still discussed in Europe with recommendations tending towards only vaccinate children at risk.
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That was a separate post apart from the Mystic dialogue .
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
So why spreading rumours in the first place.
People dumb enough to have the motor running while getting vaccinated should be excluded from that option.
A simple sneeze can make you slip of the brake.
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And, really, how long does it take to put a car in neutral or park? That would be enough even if you do leave the motor on.
 
Mystic said:
I just had a visit with our newspaper editor. She said the rumor is partly true. A driver waiting in line did have a bad reaction to the vaccine that made him lose control of his breaks so that his car struck an emergency care worker. However, the report is false that the driver died. The emergency care worker was traumatized, but not injured enough for hospitalization. Nor was the driver hospitalized. I'm glad I spoke to her because my friends use the reported death to buttress their case for not taking the vaccine. But I guess the vehemence of the bad reaction to the vaccine may still deter them.

btw, when my doctor brother received the 2nd Pfizer vaccine, he was bedridden with flu-like symptoms for 2 days. He put a positive spin on this reaction, taking it to mean that the vaccine was working. A nurse told me that the 2nd shot is the one that most likely triggers a bad reaction, adding that if I drink extra glasses of water the day prior and the day of the 2nd vaccination, such a reaction would likely be avoided. I took her advice and experienced no symptoms.
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Could be something like an allergic reaction. Or could not be a reaction to a substance in the vaccine at all but just a response to a needle, which shortly after a needle is a very common occurrence. Reactions vary greatly, I have experienced vomiting and lightheadedness, tunnel vision, decreased hearing along with rushing in my ears - along a spectrum. My sister loses consciousness sometimes and has happened after some vaccines (not all of the ones she gets),it was discovered she has seizures although they are not epileptic ones. The last one I was aware of was from a blood draw - I got butt dialed when she fell over.
 
btw, I don't start rumors; I report them and then check them out if I can, as in the case of the collision induced by a vaccine reaction. All my friends search the internet for studies on the vaccines and then E-mail me with the alarming results. I've always been skeptical of these studies, but people are entitled to hear about local reactions.
 
Mendalla said:
And, really, how long does it take to put a car in neutral or park? That would be enough even if you do leave the motor on.
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Depending on the setup I wouldn't be so quick to blame an individual. If they were asked to park, get vaccinated and sit there, then yes, they should have been parked, so no braking necessary. If it's more of a pull up over here for the vaccine then go there to wait it out, I think that's a problem. Cognitive and executive functioning can drop quickly. Could be they were incapable of putting it in park in time or they thought they already had.

Even with a pretty good set up, if the car was running (which I could see for the AC/heat aspect) confusion can lead to someone doing something like putting the car into drive as their functioning is decreasing.

If it was an active decision to get vaccinated while a car is in drive - stupid.
 
Alberta is close to using 98% of it's doses. Very strong indication we need more here IMO.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Leaving me scratching my head as to why your premier is running expensive lotteries to get shots that might not be available?
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To grt some of the remaining 2% used as first doses so we hit the target to open up Canada Day, and definitely in time for Stampede. He's hosting a breakfast. ‍♀️
 
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