Covid 19 Vaccine

[Waterfall]

Infection rates aren't what the vaccines were looked at to bring down though. It's hospitalizations and deaths. I think that's a big problem with how many people look at their vaccinations. Yes, vaccination reduces risk of spread but it's not really a case of hey I'm, safe to be around because I'm vaccinated. It's more of a case of hey, it's ok I go to a busy place where covid may be circulating as I'm unlikely to need to take up a hospital bed if I get COVID. This is a big part of why we allow vaccinated people to gather when unvaccinated people cannot.

Hospital admissions are up and deaths. I cant post my sources because I dont know how on my phone and my computer is down.

 

[Northwind]

Interesting, haven't seen the change in sore throat with chronic conditions but change in cough and shortness of breath have been stated here for over a year. I think there may be something about worsening of symptoms in general as well. Wording changes slightly one location to another.

I appreciate the question about changing symptoms. If you answer yes to that or any other question you'll be directed to a real person who can help discern whether covid is a possibility

 

[ChemGal]

I appreciate the question about changing symptoms. If you answer yes to that or any other question you'll be directed to a real person who can help discern whether covid is a possibility

Although I did mention it during my patch testing and they just brushed it off both appointments. I find it depends greatly on who is doing the screening.

 

[Northwind]

Although I did mention it during my patch testing and they just brushed it off both appointments. I find it depends greatly on who is doing the screening.

I'm just glad they're modifying the questions as they learn and adapt. I have a chronic cough so asking me if I have a cough is useless. They need to know if it has changed. I also sometimes have a sore throat when I'm tired. It's not covid

 

[ChemGal]

I'm just glad they're modifying the questions as they learn and adapt. I have a chronic cough so asking me if I have a cough is useless. They need to know if it has changed. I also sometimes have a sore throat when I'm tired. It's not covid

Oh, they always accounted for chronic conditions here although with different places asking I would usually just answer all my symptoms are related to chronic conditions. The worst experience I had was actually with healthlink when trying to report my adverse reaction. For whatever reason their algorithm didn't actually match the law.

 

[Northwind]

Oh, they always accounted for chronic conditions here although with different places asking I would usually just answer all my symptoms are related to chronic conditions. The worst experience I had was actually with healthlink when trying to report my adverse reaction. For whatever reason their algorithm didn't actually match the law.

I haven't always felt they did. They have for a while though. My dentist office has a screening questionnaire that is done online. It only asks about symptoms that are associated with covid without recognizing the chronic issues. I phoned them after I answered the first time to clarify. I'm sure I would have coughed in front of the hygienist or dentist if I hadn't said anything. I haven't coughed there.

 

[ChemGal]

I haven't always felt they did. They have for a while though. My dentist office has a screening questionnaire that is done online. It only asks about symptoms that are associated with covid without recognizing the chronic issues. I phoned them after I answered the first time to clarify. I'm sure I would have coughed in front of the hygienist or dentist if I hadn't said anything. I haven't coughed there.

Individual places may not have been great. I thought the first written order by Dr. Hinshaw accounted for them but it may have been an amendment added shortly after.

 

[Northwind]

Individual places may not have been great. I thought the first written order by Dr. Hinshaw accounted for them but it may have been an amendment added shortly after.

We're not under Dr Hinshaw here. I suspect each health authority or organization (ie dentist office) use the guidelines to decide what to specifically ask. When I got bloodwork in Kelowna and Vernon (Interior Health) the processes were slightly different from what Island Health/Nanaimo does.

 

[ChemGal]

We're not under Dr Hinshaw here. I suspect each health authority or organization (ie dentist office) use the guidelines to decide what to specifically ask. When I got bloodwork in Kelowna and Vernon (Interior Health) the processes were slightly different from what Island Health/Nanaimo does.

I imagine Dr. Henry came out with something similar.
While places can do their own screening process, if say a dentist refused to treat someone because they have a chronic cough legally that could create some issues.

 

[Mendalla]

I imagine Dr. Henry came out with something similar.
While places can do their own screening process, if say a dentist refused to treat someone because they have a chronic cough legally that could create some issues.

Think here in Ontario the colleges have kind of told them what is required in their practices, esp. for healthcare professions like dentistry that aren't part of the public healthcare system. I'm pretty sure that's what my dentist told me (he used to do practice inspections for the college).

 

[GordW]

Think here in Ontario the colleges have kind of told them what is required in their practices, esp. for healthcare professions like dentistry that aren't part of the public healthcare system. I'm pretty sure that's what my dentist told me (he used to do practice inspections for the college).

THe Dental Association did that in Alberta, as far as I could understand from the communications we got from our orthodontist

 

[Northwind]

I imagine Dr. Henry came out with something similar.
While places can do their own screening process, if say a dentist refused to treat someone because they have a chronic cough legally that could create some issues.

I'm not sure where this discussion is going. The pre-screening that happens before an appointment includes recognition that people can have chronic coughs and other symptoms which could be seen as covid. It is good that they are recognizing that and asking accordingly. While health facilities and practitioners have to operate under certain guidelines, they will apparently have some flexibility in how they do that. It is not a way to refuse treatment. It's a way to prevent spread and to get people treatment if necessary

Registered health professionals in BC are required to be fully vaccinated. If not already, soon

 

[ChemGal]

I'm not sure where this discussion is going. The pre-screening that happens before an appointment includes recognition that people can have chronic coughs and other symptoms which could be seen as covid. It is good that they are recognizing that and asking accordingly. While health facilities and practitioners have to operate under certain guidelines, they will apparently have some flexibility in how they do that. It is not a way to refuse treatment. It's a way to prevent spread and to get people treatment if necessary

Registered health professionals in BC are required to be fully vaccinated. If not already, soon

In the law, it was worded that symptoms that require isolation if not related to a pre-existing condition.
So even if screening done by a location didn't cover that aspect, there was a legal document that could be accessed. Someone could easily make the public access argument if a place stuck to their (faulty) screening. Even if the questions were faulty though the only time I actually had an issue came directly from AHS.

I would expect most provinces to have chronic condition exemptions to the questions.

 

[Northwind]

This is factoring in chronic conditions. It's called essentially a differential diagnosis or assessment. They know all coughs are not covid.

 

[ChemGal]

This is factoring in chronic conditions. It's called essentially a differential diagnosis or assessment. They know all coughs are not covid.

But that's a change there? Wondering if the more professional screening questions somehow missed including it.

 

[BetteTheRed]

And I have something of a chronic cough under some circumstances. Even masked, if someone lingers in my lane with heavy perfume (or too many Bounce sheets, lol), I tend to get a bit barky. I just cough into my elbow and briefly say "chronic allergic cough"...

 

[Northwind]

But that's a change there? Wondering if the more professional screening questions somehow missed including it.

Okay let me try to be more specific. I am currently sitting in medical daycare getting an infusion. I got the prescreen phone call that included asking about any changes in chronic conditions. There was the option to talk to someone if there were any issues. I had none so am here. If there had been a concern a nurse would have assessed it.

When you show up at the door of the hospital they screen everyone.

What exactly is the problem here that requires this discussion to go on and on?

 

[Northwind]

And I have something of a chronic cough under some circumstances. Even masked, if someone lingers in my lane with heavy perfume (or too many Bounce sheets, lol), I tend to get a bit barky. I just cough into my elbow and briefly say "chronic allergic cough"...

I just had a mini coughing fit here in medical daycare. I said it's chronic not covid. The nurse brought me some water and all is well again. I think fatigue plays a part.

 

[Luce NDs]

Is the difference between chronic and critical become a foggy issue because of what we don't know?

The great unknown is liable to respond! Its a Judy'n thing ... great unknowns form shadows over the wee parts ...

 

[Waterfall]

Does the rapid test detect Omicran?