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BethAnne said:
Don't know her personally, but professionally, she likes to create controversy - was a talk-show host for years. As a premier, any good she is doing is getting overshadowed by the scandals and problems in her government (of her making) - cracks are getting bigger and bigger. When she says she's doing the best for AB, what she means is she is doing whatever she wants for herself. Majority want to keep the RCMP in AB - she's still going ahead to replace with a prov police force anyway. Majority don't want to op out of the CPP - she's still going ahead with it anyway. Majority don't want to leave Canada - she's still planning on making it happen anyway (hence our own police and pension plan???) As to being an artist - I have no clue.
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i always like hearing from actual people aboot things :3
 
BethAnne said:
Dad grew up during his time. We also had CCF here but it didn't take off like it did in SK (forerunner for NDP)
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ahh CCF :3 when Canada actually had viable Socialist/Communist groups

their old headquarters in Van is still around -- i think it is used for housing now? -- with their slogan still visible "Limitless progress increases the divide" iirc
 
Waterfall said:
I'm sure you'd be telling a different story if Carney lost his riding?
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Honestly? I would read it differently if Carney lost his riding. A new leader who can't even get a riding is going to lead to a crisis of confidence. And him losing the riding would most likely have happened in the context of a Liberal wipeout, which we did not get. That would have been as much of a factor as Carney losing the riding since it would mean the "swapping Trudeau out for new blood" gambit failed.

An established leader like Poilievre losing their seat in an election that swung hard to another party due to external factors (i.e. a certain US leader) is not necessarily going to resign nor should he necessarily resign. However, caucus might decide to push him even if he doesn't jump. And, again, it's the losing of an election that until February looked to be a cakewalk that's going to weigh in as much as Poilievire losing his riding. Had the Conservatives won or held the Liberals to a narrower minority, I doubt there would be any challenge to his leadership even if he lost his own riding.

Look at Singh. Is he resigning because he lost his seat or is he resigning because his party went from 25 seats to 7 and lost official party status, with his own loss as a minor factor? Again, I would argue that losing his own seat would not be a big factor had the NDP made gains.
 
Mendalla said:
Honestly? I would read it differently if Carney lost his riding. A new leader who can't even get a riding is going to lead to a crisis of confidence. And him losing the riding would most likely have happened in the context of a Liberal wipeout, which we did not get. That would have been as much of a factor as Carney losing the riding since it would mean the "swapping Trudeau out for new blood" gambit failed.

An established leader like Poilievre losing their seat in an election that swung hard to another party due to external factors (i.e. a certain US leader) is not necessarily going to resign nor should he necessarily resign. However, caucus might decide to push him even if he doesn't jump. And, again, it's the losing of an election that until February looked to be a cakewalk that's going to weigh in as much as Poilievire losing his riding. Had the Conservatives won or held the Liberals to a narrower minority, I doubt there would be any challenge to his leadership even if he lost his own riding.

Look at Singh. Is he resigning because he lost his seat or is he resigning because his party went from 25 seats to 7 and lost official party status, with his own loss as a minor factor? Again, I would argue that losing his own seat would not be a big factor had the NDP made gains.
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Not sure what that has to do with my response to WhyCzar?
 
Mendalla said:
Given her proclivities, she's likely to claim that Canada East of Alberta is attacking Alberta by electing Carney as support for Alberta gaining (more) independence. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Westerners engage in that kind of anti-Ontario/Quebec paranoia.
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Remember; repeat, repeat, repeat until belief is encountered even if disbelieve ... only happens in physical virtues ... some take an aspect from the other side ... thus abstractions!
 
Mendalla said:
Honestly? I would read it differently if Carney lost his riding. A new leader who can't even get a riding is going to lead to a crisis of confidence. And him losing the riding would most likely have happened in the context of a Liberal wipeout, which we did not get. That would have been as much of a factor as Carney losing the riding since it would mean the "swapping Trudeau out for new blood" gambit failed.

An established leader like Poilievre losing their seat in an election that swung hard to another party due to external factors (i.e. a certain US leader) is not necessarily going to resign nor should he necessarily resign. However, caucus might decide to push him even if he doesn't jump. And, again, it's the losing of an election that until February looked to be a cakewalk that's going to weigh in as much as Poilievire losing his riding. Had the Conservatives won or held the Liberals to a narrower minority, I doubt there would be any challenge to his leadership even if he lost his own riding.

Look at Singh. Is he resigning because he lost his seat or is he resigning because his party went from 25 seats to 7 and lost official party status, with his own loss as a minor factor? Again, I would argue that losing his own seat would not be a big factor had the NDP made gains.
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Is the entire world adrift from some sort of moorings? It does appear that way as we enter the state of "self-destruct"! This we accomplish all by ourself through some conflict of value ... one declares the other stupid and ignorant and with ignorance we loose what they were debating ... the sense of psyche!

There it goes ...

Do you know how many hate the sense of psyche? It appears as anti pious ... a, or I, Saac of loose Nu Tz ... crossing sleepers ... Nu Ton? (ton, don and ron once being a word for a void, a' hole) Spatial! What does one make of such applications ... Yo Semi ni Sam ... cartoon?
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Correction. I said 2050. It’s 2040 but that’s still 17 yrs away. Disability has been a protected ground in the Charter since 1985 but we don’t have an act equivalent to the US’s (they’ve had since mid 90s) enforced yet. That’s the Accessible Canada Act expected to be fully implemented by 2040. Way too long. Canada also supposedly solidified our commitment to the UNCRPD in 2010. Again, too long.
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Reading over this thread I found an error I made. 15 yrs away. Geez. I promise I know what year it is lol (even though with Covid it still feels like we lost a couple of years). That was just some dyslexic math or something. Sorry.
 
Some philosopher once said that a society that indicated compassion had a special trait that could be labelled ... some brutes love to extract labels and thus the art of communication is attacked ... health of educational powers? These are easily injured if you can convince folk that they don't desire to know ... the impingement of ignorance factors ... throw the grand book at them ...

What if the book is ultimately incomplete ... like mortal? These simulates the understanding of abstract relations and alchemy! Which craft to pick up on ...
 
Hardly the first time a leader has played this game. Is it fair? Not by non-political standards. But it's how things work in Ottawa and I imagine Carney will play ball by calling a byelection quickly. Usually, the PM wants his opposition inside the House. Now, if Poilievre somehow loses this one, he's done like dinner.
 
Mendalla said:
Hardly the first time a leader has played this game. Is it fair? Not by non-political standards. But it's how things work in Ottawa and I imagine Carney will play ball by calling a byelection quickly. Usually, the PM wants his opposition inside the House. Now, if Poilievre somehow loses this one, he's done like dinner.
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Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants if he does lose this one!
I thought it was Carney being nice...so it's more of a strategic move?
 
Waterfall said:
Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants if he does lose this one!
I thought it was Carney being nice...so it's more of a strategic move?
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Once Poilievre is inside the House, he has to play by the rules of the House. As long as he is outside, he can't be sanctioned by the Speaker if he steps out of line, censured by a vote of the House, etc.
 
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