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revsdd said:
And if that's understood going in, that's fine. The real question is whether it was understood. My point is that it can't happen under the new system. If you start with a premium you have to maintain the premium.
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Can this be negotiated? Different congregation - partly hypothetical situation - church is doing well when they hire a minister at 15% above basic salary. Fifteen years later the situation has changed. Church struggling financially. Secretary and sexton's hours are cut. The soloist refuses the usual honourarium. The annual budget is being prepared - the finance people meet with the minister ????
 
back to minimum wage

If person X is hired at minimum wage two years ago. Does well. Now earns $12 instead of $11

Minimum wage goes to $15. But new person Y with no experience earns $15. Person X who is more experienced and valuable should earn $15 plus

Otherwise what is the point of experience, loyalty.....

Everyone wilil expect an increase If minimum goes up $4 then so will all the other salaries. More or less.

Costs will go up. Have to. Or jobs will be lost as small owners do the jobs themselves

Had a friend at school in australia. Got job at a Subway type place.

Was thrilled. $20/hour. Of course everything cost twice as much so no difference. Food, snacks, mcdonalds, coffee. Enjoy your $4 coffee he found
 
Or be self-sufficient and make your own ... in the extreme one gets down to earth and grows everything needed.

There may be restrictions, contrary to those of pure free wiles ... these tend to be those on top ... as they can't see foundational things!
 
Lastpointe said:
back to minimum wage

If person X is hired at minimum wage two years ago. Does well. Now earns $12 instead of $11

Minimum wage goes to $15. But new person Y with no experience earns $15. Person X who is more experienced and valuable should earn $15 plus

Otherwise what is the point of experience, loyalty.....

Everyone wilil expect an increase If minimum goes up $4 then so will all the other salaries. More or less.

Costs will go up. Have to. Or jobs will be lost as small owners do the jobs themselves

Had a friend at school in australia. Got job at a Subway type place.

Was thrilled. $20/hour. Of course everything cost twice as much so no difference. Food, snacks, mcdonalds, coffee. Enjoy your $4 coffee he found
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Person X is hired at minimum wage of $12 per hour. Two years later person Y is also hired at minimum wage of $12 hour. What does X do?

Minimum wage goes up to $15 per hour. Persons X and Y get $15 per hour, and two years later Z is also hired. What does X and Y do? Probably the same as X did when he was earning $12 per hour.

Except that companies usually find some way to reward experience. McDonalds for instance (both my kids worked at McD through high school and university). Every six months or so they get a job review. If their work is satisfactory they get a small raise - maybe just $.10 an hour. So those with expeerience do earn a bit more than the starting wage. They aren't apt to quit - if they start a similar job with another company they will be back to the basic starting salary. Also, there are other ways to reward employees for experience, loyalty, and efficiency - job titles, different uniforms, choice of better hours, choice of duties within the company - front desk might be prefered to cleaning the kitchen.

So with minimum wage going up everybody has more to spend. The company is busier. The employees are happier - happier employees are more efficient - the company makes more money.
 
There are, by law I think, standard of living increases of a few percent per year and most (non-union) employers give periodic performance reviews and raises. Union jobs work differently, of course because raises for an entire classification of jobs is negotiated every so often by the union.
 
Seeler said:
Can this be negotiated? Different congregation - partly hypothetical situation - church is doing well when they hire a minister at 15% above basic salary. Fifteen years later the situation has changed. Church struggling financially. Secretary and sexton's hours are cut. The soloist refuses the usual honourarium. The annual budget is being prepared - the finance people meet with the minister ????
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For now at least, to renegotiate the terms of a call, you need to do a JNAC and receive Presbytery approval. Finance people meeting with minister doesn't cut it. It's a three way covenant.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
I'm very excited about this experiment. Soon we will see what it would be like if Kimmio, Graeme, Seeler, and Geofee were given the keys to a resource rich province.

http://business.financialpost.com/f...ers-will-be-like-kids-running-the-candy-store
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that's why schmart people surround themselves with varied schmart people who have expertise in any areas that they don't :3 or they know how to get accurate information from experts...

due to the dunning-kruger effect, which everyone is affected by (experts tend to slightly underestimate their competency, while less competent people overestimate their competency, but NO ONE estimates themselves to be below 50 per cent competency...so no one person is competent across all areas of knowledge -- and this has been found to include things like humour & logic -- and the reason? this is fascinating as well...its because people are filled with misinformation that interferes with actual facts -- thus, we get large groups of people believing very silly things, like the 'anti-vaxxers'...i'm sure the bibble talks aboot this -- fools vs. wise women, needing to empty one's wineskin before trying someone else's etc)

and bless Conservatives, whose whole job it is to protect Liberalism from being eroded by 'those who know better'

and so

it goes
 
You've heard of head chi'z ... that is the demon that combines logic and humour ... the stoics don't like it as it takes us merrily along the way to a different cognizance ... like separating fused beans from those pheching (fission) for da big fish ... brae in food.

They're just words out've the book ... when out there they are to be usued by the imagination and converted into thought ... something pure emotional folk say is incarnate ... or appears as it sin't and thus one can't trust a word as in scribed ... by great authority ... more corrupt than most ... as manifests in the popular soul ... with some singularity .. if you can gather that much ...

Can you abide by police that just go by the book without any small degree of understanding of the reason for it being ... just for those without ability to think of those beyond self ... type of myth toem!
 
Is that cynical of how things are ... or just satyr, the devil implementing change ... so we could get out of the rut were in a lengthy degree of pitz? Soulful, or mental depression ... and yet something un recognizant as apocalypse present, now ... it is rough walking that edge between a duality of extreme who do not believe the other should exist ... contrary to the golden rule that allows for stimulation of thought ... well in a rare few! Ethereal ethic peoples ... a small thing to the moral mob! It is a storied thingy ... Christ had a supportive one that flipped when they discovered they had to take part in the great dying ... a hue on the only way out ... wipeout? Is that a severe Rueben or what ...
 
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Financial Post, like its parent National Post, is a home for propagandists who preach to idiots. Oskar Levant, one of the most vicious propagandists in North America, has a column in there arguing that PM Notley is another Stalin, and the NDP is a communist party. That sort of rant appeals to the very, very ignorant. In fact, Notley closer to being a Liberal, only slightly more socially conscious.
Will the NDP in power be like kids in a candy store? Not likely. And certainly no nearly so much as the Alberta Conservatives were, and the federal Conservatives are.
I am not convinced that Alberta has come anywhere close to solving its problems - or anywhere close even to understanding what they are.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Oskar Levant, one of the most vicious propagandists in North America, has a column in there arguing that PM Notley is another Stalin, and the NDP is a communist party.
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Pretty impressive since Oscar Levant the american pianist has been dead since 1979.

Suggest you stop referring to Sir John A. you appear to be suffering a contact high merely from the name.

Pehaps you meant Ezra Levant that famous killer of media outlets.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Financial Post, like its parent National Post, is a home for propagandists who preach to idiots. Oskar Levant, one of the most vicious propagandists in North America, has a column in there arguing that PM Notley is another Stalin, and the NDP is a communist party. That sort of rant appeals to the very, very ignorant. In fact, Notley closer to being a Liberal, only slightly more socially conscious.
Will the NDP in power be like kids in a candy store? Not likely. And certainly no nearly so much as the Alberta Conservatives were, and the federal Conservatives are.
I am not convinced that Alberta has come anywhere close to solving its problems - or anywhere close even to understanding what they are.
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True, but Post Media thinks Liberals are communists too. And then, of course, there are some hard core right wing types who think Post Media is communist and think that the only real news that wasn't lefty pinko commie died when Sun News went off the air, although it hangs on through its print media as a breath of truth.
 
Right. Oscar Levant was much better. As an impressionable mailboy, it was the two-volume biography of Sir John A that made me choose Canadian history for the rest of my life. Alas! Graduate school simply taught me what a drunken scoundrel he was.

People have images of history conveyed largely by news media and entertainment (movies) which profoundly colour our perception of current events, and the nature of the world we live in. ( I just did today's blog on that subject. I'm still depressed by it.)
Stalin was not a communist. Nor is Cuba. A real communism would mean the application of Christian principles of cooperation and loving one's neighbour. I don't think the world is anywhere close to being ready for that. It's a nice thought - --maybe in another century or so. But not possible now.

International capitalism is inherently anti-Christian, based entirely on greed and quite indifferent to human needs.
 
Is human like an integral factor? That would be anti-pragmatic to economies of scale ... big-headed-Ness? The butte ND of the humanist joke, a domain to put soels to learn as soiled?
 
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