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Jae said:
Believe what he spoke at was a meeting of the Heritage Foundation, out of which group came Project 2025. Which means, if anything, he'd some kind of influence on the group, rather than that the plan's his. What you say about many of his appointees, I don't know about "many," but at least some have been, that's true. Neither of those things make Project 2025 Trump's plan, and he has distanced himself from it
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Who said it was his plan? What matters is that he appears to support the plan. It is the latest iteration of plans by the Heritage Foundation, the new name for the Atlas Foundation. 8 years ago a high priority for that organization was control of the Supreme Court and he secured that for them. with the help of Mitch McConnel.
 
If Matt Gaetz gets approved by the Senate, he is ready to attack Trump's opponents. I assume appointing authors of parts of the plan indicates he wants those parts achieved. The main obstacle to his success will be Republicans in the Senate who support the constitution.
 
Mendalla said:
Bingo. They don't want migrants but they also don't want to do the jobs that the migrants are doing. People with BAs flipping burgers rather than swallowing their middle class pride and learning a trade. People preferring no job to unskilled manual labour, which is what a lot of the illegal migrants are doing. And that's going to bite them on the butt if they really do mass deportations rather than something more nuanced and organized to deal with illegal immigration. businesses and economists are already warning about that. I'm not saying that they don't need to deal with illegal immigration, but brute force mass deportations may do more harm than good.
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Will this evolve into an other enigma ... just to be alternate and stubborn as one of those things ...?
 
GordW said:
Not really. The people targeted are people of colour and asylum seekers. The people being blamed (often without back up)for social distress are people of colour and asylum seekers. This is true in Canada and Europe as well as in the US. The next step is to say we are only for immigrants who "share our values" or who "will not make us change" or more bluntly "are like us". It is a cover for racism.

I am sure you have chosen not to know why Transgenderd folk feel threatened.

Because there are voices in the MAGA side of the GOP that want marriage returned to "traditional" heterosexual marriage only. It is not just about what the President-Elect has said, it is also about what those who back him have said. [PArticularly because I am not always sure who is the tail and who is the dog. Trump honestly believes he is using the far-right and Christain NAtionalists and they are convinced they are using him. Who is wagging who is not always clear.]
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Thus conflict can be initiated or just continue as prior! Mortals tend to be that way ... me? I'm said to be nothing ... just eliminate that A's ...
 
jimkenney12 said:
The unemployed Americans are either unable or unwilling to do the agricultural work gor the pay that is offered.

I did not claim he would do those things. Others want to do that and the believe he gives them permission to do that. One state has already tabled a bill to ban trans sex women from using women's washrooms.There is a lot more in Project 2025 that is even scarier. Many of the young men who voted for him believe, "Her body; my choice."
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When dealing with emotes ... are there plans, plots and logical sketches? What's an emote ... more to dig into ... who would perform such toil and vocation given the prodigal matter involved; waste?
 
chansen said:
Looks like the dog caught it's tail. Whatever happens is now squarely on them. They even have the Supreme Court, and will for at least a generation.

The fear is people will suffer. The rich will get tax cuts and trickle down economics will continue to mostly not even trickle down. Education will be gutted. Disabled and disadvantaged kids will bear the brunt of the cuts.

Or maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong.
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If power is corrupt will something be reduced to some humble pile of prodigal matter at stake? Aches ... more pain about action-reaction syndrome ... a 2-way icon as a sighing in the Aeries above ... hot stuff ...
 
Jae said:
Think they'd do them, Waterfall, if the pay was increased and benefits were added/improved. Course, that could easily make the price of food soar. What the Trump/Vance administration would do then while keeping to their campaign promise to lower costs, I've no idea.

Agreed
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That is not favored by those with a sense of avarice for economy! Just watch the grip slide to the top of the scale ...
 
Redbaron said:
You could actually come up with the requested quotes (if, indeed, you could find any), rather than continually avoiding, evading, and dodging the question.
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In a void dance ... one can dance around an ugly hole and act as if they are conscious when in virtue they only have that appearance (like incarnate) it isn't how it appears because of the fog and mist ... nothing is clear in reality ... even the night sky is filled with stardust ... and few stoics will admit there is anything out there ... because of paranoia about the vast mystery ... it would be like admitting there was something that you didn't know ... definitively not for proposed authority!
 
Jae said:
Believe what he spoke at was a meeting of the Heritage Foundation, out of which group came Project 2025. Which means, if anything, he'd some kind of influence on the group, rather than that the plan's his. What you say about many of his appointees, I don't know about "many," but at least some have been, that's true. Neither of those things make Project 2025 Trump's plan, and he has distanced himself from it
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There are folk that when considering power will not admit to the idea they should go first ... as the authority that is! Me, I remain observing from out there ... totally and integrally eliminated by emotes ... that reflective point above a shoulder ...
 
Jae said:
Thank you, jim, for sharing your perspective. One which I'm sure you realise not everyone shares
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Remember what rules in a domain where ignorance is preferred! It is cemented in place in many BS depositions ... the silent will not hear of it ... thus the 3 Mon Qui rule ... a triad ...
 
jimkenney12 said:
Who said it was his plan? What matters is that he appears to support the plan. It is the latest iteration of plans by the Heritage Foundation, the new name for the Atlas Foundation. 8 years ago a high priority for that organization was control of the Supreme Court and he secured that for them. with the help of Mitch McConnel.
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There are those who say he is the puppet of people like The Heritage Foundation who have been playing the long game with this. Puppets can be replaced

Of course, time will tell.
 
I just came across this perspective on Bluesky. Interesting

"I'm sorry but no, these appointments aren't some kind of 3D fascist chess, expertly designed to strip us of our will to fight. These are the dregs left in the barrel of Trump's loyalists. They're all he's got. It's bad enough without pretending (again) like Trump is a Sun Tzu-level genius. He's not."
 
In reality, many or most experienced Republicans could not support his objectives or some f the people he wants to appoint. The backers of the Atlas Foundation have been playing a long game starting before Reagan. Many of their puppets become wild cards that divert from the plan. They are at work across the world. Hugary was one of their success stories in europe.
 
Northwind said:
I just came across this perspective on Bluesky. Interesting

"I'm sorry but no, these appointments aren't some kind of 3D fascist chess, expertly designed to strip us of our will to fight. These are the dregs left in the barrel of Trump's loyalists. They're all he's got. It's bad enough without pretending (again) like Trump is a Sun Tzu-level genius. He's not."
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I like the Sun Tzu reference ... few appreciate that literature that indicates primally to be patient and prepared for anything and everything given the volatile caldron in which we are hung up ... the creator of the recipe is in the pot!

Is that self indulgent, or just how one half responds to the dull semi? (hemi, demi?) Semi-tite as a closed ring 'ere ...

I drift back to biblical divers ... those plunging into the wholly Allah-gory ... in which one definition says divers means variable and another indicates a plunge ... perhaps baptism? Word is strange if you don't appreciate all facets of the dark gem ... onyx? In some semitic that is a nail ... so something can be hammered to a tree of knowledge .. despised by those wishing not to be aware ... UNA WOKE? Is it peculiar that UNA in some traditions is the ole lady? Like One Ager, Jettah, or another portal ... reminding of Lord Jinn's voyage according to J Conrad ... what a sad travel that put forth ...

Then imagine the things that happen formlessly on dark and story nights when the skipper skimmed ova dah wat ah ... disturbing the chimera in the deeps ... shades of Beth what? Maybe Beth la HEM ... back to the edge ...
 
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jimkenney12 said:
Who said it was his plan? What matters is that he appears to support the plan. It is the latest iteration of plans by the Heritage Foundation, the new name for the Atlas Foundation. 8 years ago a high priority for that organization was control of the Supreme Court and he secured that for them. with the help of Mitch McConnel.
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ANd the HEritage Foundation has claimed in the past to have been able to inform/steer/direct/influence Republican Presidents daitng back to Reagan's first term.
 
jimkenney12 said:
If Matt Gaetz gets approved by the Senate, he is ready to attack Trump's opponents. I assume appointing authors of parts of the plan indicates he wants those parts achieved. The main obstacle to his success will be Republicans in the Senate who support the constitution.
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I saw some suggestions on X this morning that Gaetz and Gabbard in particular are Cabinet selections designed to test how loyal the Senate is (or maybe more accurately is their loyalty to the Preseident-Elect as a person over and above concerns for the well-being of the state).
 
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