Covid 19 Vaccine

[Northwind]

I do think that most small northern communities across the country are trying to vaccinate entire populations. Sort of a while we are here we might as well get you all

Exactly.

 

[JayneWonders]

More and more of my friends and family are being vaccinated. I am in a risk group that would get me to have a vaccine in my previous region, but, not there yet in my current region. I was encouraged by family to register in my previous region as I still own property there, but, I am going to hold. (I do know that there are spots that are open every day).
I also put my name forward for Astrazenica on the Shoppers site. Not called yet, as no Shoppers locally have it. I am NOT interested in driving to Toronto.

 

[JayneWonders]

Interesting reflection on how logistics can impact the delivery of vaccines.
The vaccines are coming in on flights. Like anything, flights into Pearson tend to be more reliable than flights into St. Johns in part as there are more flights, more options. Ditto for shipments.

This article explains that a plane mechanical issue resulted in the delay of the shipment to Alberta from Brussels.

Flight carrying Moderna vaccines to Alberta delayed due to mechanical issues

Dr. Deena Hinshaw says a shipment of Moderna vaccines were supposed to arrive in Alberta earlier this week but the plane carrying the supply was grounded outside the province due to mechanical issues.

www.660citynews.com

I really really get tired of the political back & forth and the complaints re process so don't normally engage in this thread. In fact, had said that i wouldn't anymore. But, caught up a bit, and decided to share this information.

 

[Northwind]

I am in a risk group that would get me to have a vaccine in my previous region, but, not there yet in my current region.

Does each region make its own policies in your province?

 

[JayneWonders]

Interesting article of the vaccine rollout specifically in target areas.
I also remember that there were clinics being stood up in this area, but, don't have any information related to it. Maybe others do.

Here is the article link: Plenty of Pharmacies, but No Vaccines in Toronto's Northwest | The Local
Couple of points
a) corporate pharmacies (big business) have systems that mean the distribution, logistics, registration, etc can be done efficiently and reduce time to get a vaccine in an arm
b) independent pharmacies tend to be smaller pharmacies and do not have staff or space to handle
c) most of that area is serviced via independent pharmacies
d) I personally know folks including folks from this site, who have driven into Toronto to get the vaccines available. The article seems to indicate that is wrong, or odd, yet, all messaging was that it was acceptable.


This article discusses the City of Toronto's approach to hit those regions which are under-serviced and the seniors not registering.

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www.toronto.ca

I was part of a webinar in Waterloo Region that also discussed the challenge of seniors, homeless and those who are not-english speaking.
They are asking churches engage with seniors to get the message out re vaccines and help people get there. I know that our seniors are helping each other, and their neighbours, as is our parish nurse.

 

[JayneWonders]

Does each region make its own policies in your province?

No, but they are responsible for distribution, and so the rollout can have different timings. Guelph was ready earliest, I think, then Waterloo. Brant is, well, Brant.

 

[Lastpointe]

this is a very clear explaination of vaccines .

of course they are still talking about being fully vaccinated. I read today that our advisory group is considering changing their recommendations about the long time frame. But it won’t matter much until doses arrive.

 

[ChemGal]

And I explained the reason for that. BC is vaccinating entire smaller and remote communities. They are using the more stable vaccine. They are doing this because it is more economical and makes more sense when such travel is involved. For point of reference, it is a 15 hour drive from Vancouver to Fort St John. It's about five hours from Prince George to FSJ. Both Hudsons Hope and Chetwynd are small communities. If they are setting up clinics, they may as well do everyone. The towns of Fort Nelson and Prince Rupert have already been done.

What wasn't accurate in my post?

 

[Lastpointe]

Actually Ontario is divided in 35 different health units and they do have different plans and policies. They all fall under the province for the colour coded restrictions, but how they give out vaccines is quite different. I suspect that is partly due to really different demographics. For instance, our health unit has finished all LTC and hospital staff, has done all first responders. Has completed all indigenous communities but not sure about those who live in the cities But we don’t have the big drugstore roll out that Toronto is doing.

I have been frustrated by looking at these health unit web sites as even these are set up differently. And I look at theSimcoe one to decide if I can go into Collingwood, our Grey Bruce one for what is happening locally, andtheToronto one to see what is happening for my kids. Uniform info is not the norm

I think this change came in under McGunity but I forget the reason for it. I bet that after this pandemic there will be some hard looks at how this system works in a disaster

 

[ChemGal]

Interesting reflection on how logistics can impact the delivery of vaccines.
The vaccines are coming in on flights. Like anything, flights into Pearson tend to be more reliable than flights into St. Johns in part as there are more flights, more options. Ditto for shipments.

This article explains that a plane mechanical issue resulted in the delay of the shipment to Alberta from Brussels.

Flight carrying Moderna vaccines to Alberta delayed due to mechanical issues

Dr. Deena Hinshaw says a shipment of Moderna vaccines were supposed to arrive in Alberta earlier this week but the plane carrying the supply was grounded outside the province due to mechanical issues.

www.660citynews.com

I really really get tired of the political back & forth and the complaints re process so don't normally engage in this thread. In fact, had said that i wouldn't anymore. But, caught up a bit, and decided to share this information.

To delay 2 shipments though is excessive. As I said could have been spread out more.

 

[Mendalla]

Actually Ontario is divided in 35 different health units and they do have different plans and policies. They all fall under the province for the colour coded restrictions, but how they give out vaccines is quite different. I suspect that is partly due to really different demographics. For instance, our health unit has finished all LTC and hospital staff, has done all first responders. Has completed all indigenous communities but not sure about those who live in the cities But we don’t have the big drugstore roll out that Toronto is doing.

I have been frustrated by looking at these health unit web sites as even these are set up differently. And I look at theSimcoe one to decide if I can go into Collingwood, our Grey Bruce one for what is happening locally, andtheToronto one to see what is happening for my kids. Uniform info is not the norm

I think this change came in under McGunity but I forget the reason for it. I bet that after this pandemic there will be some hard looks at how this system works in a disaster

I know MLHU started on 80+ ahead of schedule, but is now pretty much matching the province. Still, I watch them rather than the province to know when I am coming up. They use their own booking system rather than the provincial one, too, both online and by phone (City of London helped them set up a call centre and provided trunks and staff).

 

[Northwind]

What wasn't accurate in my post?

This:

No reason for prioritization I guess their area opened for all 18+ now. ....
........I'm surprised BC has gone to everyone over 18 already in places. They are in a small area but I don't think it's a high risk one.

You are speculating or questioning the reasoning behind opening up for 18+ in certain areas. That has absolutely been explained by the province to anyone who is following the process.

 

[Lastpointe]

This is the article I was reading that seems to imply NACI is changing their minds. Again. It’s from theStar so not sure if it will open for anyone

Star Editorial Board: Clear up the confusion on ‘first dose’ vaccine strategy

‘Public health authorities need to make clear their advice on ‘first dose’ vaccine strategy is based on science, not what’s most convenient for governments.’

www.thestar.com

 

[ChemGal]

This:


You are speculating or questioning the reasoning behind opening up for 18+ in certain areas. That has absolutely been explained by the province to anyone who is following the process.

This:


You are speculating or questioning the reasoning behind opening up for 18+ in certain areas. That has absolutely been explained by the province to anyone who is following the process.

I've known enough people there over time it didn't really stand out as an area that remote. I did say it was small.
Again not sure what was inaccurate.

 

[Northwind]

I've known enough people there over time it didn't really stand out as an area that remote. I did say it was small.
Again not sure what was inaccurate.

You said there was no reason for prioritization. There was a reason given.

I lived in that region for 20 years. I agree, in some ways it doesn't seem remote. Still, the logistics of getting things to that area are not the same as in more populated areas of this country. When there were landslides in the Pine Pass a few years ago grocery stores saw empty shelves because supply trucks had difficulty getting there. Tumbler Ridge was completely cut off from the rest of the area when roads were blocked by flooding and mudslides a few years ago. The Peace Region is remote by most Canadian standards even though it is a thriving area. Communities within the Peace are more remote.

 

[ChemGal]

You said there was no reason for prioritization. There was a reason given.

I lived in that region for 20 years. I agree, in some ways it doesn't seem remote. Still, the logistics of getting things to that area are not the same as in more populated areas of this country. When there were landslides in the Pine Pass a few years ago grocery stores saw empty shelves because supply trucks had difficulty getting there. Tumbler Ridge was completely cut off from the rest of the area when roads were blocked by flooding and mudslides a few years ago. The Peace Region is remote by most Canadian standards even though it is a thriving area. Communities within the Peace are more remote.

Oh by that I meant as the factors listed for individuals. They aren't health care workers, don't health conditions that put them at risk etc.

 

[Northwind]

Oh by that I meant as the factors listed for individuals. They aren't health care workers, don't health conditions that put them at risk etc.

Those are not the only reasons for vaccinating. I'm glad BC is showing some flexibility.

 

[Lastpointe]

As of today, only two states are not vaccinating everyone over 16. All other states are

whether you like Biden or don’t he has certainly been successful at rolling out vaccines rapidly

 

[Mendalla]

I had not heard of this, but in case anyone has, getting vaccinated does NOT affect your health insurance. It is eff-ing anti-vax bs and probably deliberate misinformation. In fact, Manulife is even offering incentives to get the shot.

Life insurers hit out at online misinformation about COVID-19 vaccine

The coronavirus vaccination will not have an impact on Canadians’ ability to get new coverage or maintain their existing benefits

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Luce NDs]

If you can't do anything good ... lie about it! Look at the releases from the past WH activities ... and those knuckling under to what was laid on em! Power sucks the common sense out of a mass 've folk!

Thus we diminish ... to lessor demons ...

Gives fear to those rising to high in the hierarchy ... tis archetypical!