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Current articles are just saying he is saying give one dose

either way he should spend his time getting the vaccine given.

i expect this is because the government is very slow at getting any doses at all. So they are trying to stretch the meager few they have.

33,000,000 people. Likely 20,000,000 people need doses. So we need 40,000,000 shots. A logistical challenge and with the few hundred thousand doses we have so far let’s at least get health care workers done
 
I think Hillier is just asking a question - IMO sometimes the best questions come from people who are NOT as close to an issue. Is it fair to ask questions? He's not making a proposal as far as I can see. He's asking a question about single dose effectiveness & is prepared to accept whatever answer comes from the science professionals.

I think I heard this morning that decision has been made in Ontario to stop reserving second doses - not sure if that was for both Pfizer and Moderna. Perhaps the question relates to this? What would happen if the second dose does not arrive in time in sufficient quantity? Hindsight critics would have a field day.

I don't know. Just glad I'm not the one charged with making the decisions - it will never be a situation in which everyone is satisfied. I do trust that for the most part people are doing the best they can.
 
What's interesting about the Oxford vaccine is the amount of the dosage seems to be in question. From what I heard today, two equal "normal" doses gives you protection in the high 60%. However, latest research says that if you do 1/2 normal dose first, then a full dose X weeks/days later, efficiency raises to 90-something %. Yet, they're still advocating the initial proposed dosage?
 
BetteTheRed said:
What's interesting about the Oxford vaccine is the amount of the dosage seems to be in question. From what I heard today, two equal "normal" doses gives you protection in the high 60%. However, latest research says that if you do 1/2 normal dose first, then a full dose X weeks/days later, efficiency raises to 90-something %. Yet, they're still advocating the initial proposed dosage?
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Though I don’y understand the logic of this effect. Giving less lets you make more antibodies?
The reasons they are not yet changing to this is that they haven’t trialed enough to be sure of this.
 
BetteTheRed said:
What's interesting about the Oxford vaccine is the amount of the dosage seems to be in question. From what I heard today, two equal "normal" doses gives you protection in the high 60%. However, latest research says that if you do 1/2 normal dose first, then a full dose X weeks/days later, efficiency raises to 90-something %. Yet, they're still advocating the initial proposed dosage?
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Astrozeneca's CEO was talking about a new paper on protocol that was still to come. So maybe things have changed again.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Though I don’y understand the logic of this effect. Giving less lets you make more antibodies?
The reasons they are not yet changing to this is that they haven’t trialed enough to be sure of this.
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Immine systems are complicated and it's more than just antibodies that get produced in response to a threat. It is a bit odd but if examined in detail my guess is at the higher doses where antibodies start to decrease another aspect ramps up.
 
Mendalla said:
Then he should have talked to his scientific advisors first, not mused about it publicly or made a public request to Health Canada.
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This. Plus I would imagine he's in contact with some experts who could explain it well or direct him to resources.
 
Everything seems so uncertain but many people are definitive that uncertainty does not exist and they are well set in that BS!

Primal movers are required to move the stones ... an addiction? Then it went ...

How set go? Really ... we don't know ... it is portion of the early biblical command about fearing info and strange intelligence ...

Stranger than fiction the truth is ...
 
I read that while the US was really good at ordering millions of doses of vaccinations, they lacked the logistics for actually giving them- and it's expected that millions of dose will expire before being given.
 
I spoke to my mother who got actually got her shot two days ago in her German nursing home. She remembered the time after the war. She was 11. She said the kids had to line up to get vaccinated to get an extra 1/2 liter of milk on their food stamps. She couldn’t remember what the vaccinations were for, just how scared they had been.
 
Britain is allowing for mix and match vaccines, 1 dose of one, 2nd of another. Hopefully will be rare if done at all. One of the acceptable reasons for doing it - not sure of what vaccine was initially used. One would hope that wouldn't be much of a problem!
 
Lastpointe said:
I wonder if she was remembering the polio vaccines.
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Could be. Per Wiki, there was a live attenuated vaccine available in some countries (not the US) as early as 1950. The Salk vaccine, an inactivated virus, didn't come along until 1955.
 
There remains some critical thinking ability among some people...

A large percentage of front-line workers in hospitals and nursing homes have refused to take the Covid-19 vaccine

A survey of 2,053 New York City firefighters found that more than half said they would refuse the Covid-19 vaccine when it became available to them, according to a poll released by the Uniformed Firefighters Association this month.

Many front-line workers refuse Covid vaccines as distribution rollout struggles (nbcnews.com)
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