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Found this while looking for the vaccine at this time. Another article said there was a small pocks outbreak after the war, with a potential source from a biological weapons place left abandonned by the Nazis
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How Scientists Created A Typhus Vaccine In A 'Fantastic Laboratory'

Arthur Allen's new book, The Fantastic Laboratory of Dr. Weigl, describes how a WWII scientist in Poland smuggled the typhus vaccine to Jews — while his team made a weakened version for the Nazis.
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Wow, I just looked up at the updated vaccinations. Alberta has really stepped it up. By population, we were 2nd last of the provinces, now we're 2nd best, over 0.5% of the population has now received a dose. I guess with all the criticism going Kenney's way he figured he should make sure the government stepped up on something. I do wish the number of doses each province has received was also shared with the tracking info, but we're all supposed to be getting a similar amount per population, so I guess that's a good comparison (territories excluded).
 
I am stunned by the slow vaccination rate. I had thought/ hoped that people in charge had a plan

and that is with us still getting this paltry number of doses. However, it is now rather useless to complain about trudeau not getting us doses when the few we do have are sitting in fridges

all summer governments had time to figure this out. To ramp up testing. To figure out where the infections were coming from. And to do something about long term care. And nothing!
 
I have some of those feelings too @Lastpointe. I realize some of it is out of the control of those who manage the vaccine once it gets to the province since it's coming from on high.

We've known about this for a year now. Some countries are doing better than others. And surely to goodness we could treat our vulnerable seniors better.
 
Although how do you give vaccines to facilities in outbreak? Can vaccines be given when you test positive for Covid? Will they test this before they give it? Or just give it anyway?
Right now Ontario has over 250 facilities with a Covid outbreak out of 626 long term care facilities in Ontario....so i guess they should start with the unaffected.
 
Waterfall said:
Although how do you give vaccines to facilities in outbreak? Can vaccines be given when you test positive for Covid? Will they test this before they give it? Or just give it anyway?
Right now Ontario has over 250 facilities with a Covid outbreak out of 626 long term care facilities in Ontario....so i guess they should start with the unaffected.
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Yes - that's what I read this morning - in Ontario they are beginning with LTC facilities that are NOT currently in outbreak status - because it should not be administered to anyone who is already ill.
 
Bc and Quebec are both making up their own schedules. BC is planning on dosing 35 days apart for the Pfizer vaccine. Not sure about what the plan is specifically for Quebec but they aren't going to give the 2nd dose according to the manufacturers (plus what Health Canada has approved). Seems to be a big mishmash without proper studies bein done.
 
BC seems to be gambling on being able go get a steady supply. They don't want to hold back the second doses because they'd like to immunize as many people as possible, and they expect to be able to have the supplies in time to give the second shots. Dr Henry and the BCCDC seem to be very research based. I'd be surprised if they deviated off what research supports.
 
Carolla said:
Yes - that's what I read this morning - in Ontario they are beginning with LTC facilities that are NOT currently in outbreak status - because it should not be administered to anyone who is already ill.
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That's what I sort of assumed because other vaccines are the same, but with the Covid vaccines having a different "makeup" with the mRNA, I wasn't sure. Still, hope everyone is tested before getting it.
 
Northwind said:
BC seems to be gambling on being able go get a steady supply. They don't want to hold back the second doses because they'd like to immunize as many people as possible, and they expect to be able to have the supplies in time to give the second shots. Dr Henry and the BCCDC seem to be very research based. I'd be surprised if they deviated off what research supports.
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I wonder if Canada should have just sent the second doses with the first doses so they would be assured they'd have it? Rather than treat the first shipments like they were all first doses.
 
Northwind said:
BC seems to be gambling on being able go get a steady supply. They don't want to hold back the second doses because they'd like to immunize as many people as possible, and they expect to be able to have the supplies in time to give the second shots. Dr Henry and the BCCDC seem to be very research based. I'd be surprised if they deviated off what research supports.
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They are deviating. I understand using new shipments for the 2nd dose and not holding back. The 35 day scheduling does not have the studies to back that up.
 
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