COVID-19 and Skepticism with studies, orders, guidelines

[Ritafee]

This is one new cause of death that has claimed way too many lives in a short time, around the world. It doesn't know borders so it needs barriers. Just because you think it's no big deal that it spreads and you think masks cramp your style too much, doesn't mean others are happy to drop dead from covid, for your personal individual freedom.

Right ... you got nothing so you resort to calling me names. Typical uninformed rant.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

@Ritafee you come from a not so proud Canadian tradition of the misinformed and somewhat selfish - not just you but the covid skeptics and resistors generally (with regard to science and stopping the spread of disease), it seems. This is not new.

You can call them ‘cynical spreaders.’ But the COVID-19 flouters are following a trail blazed in debates over vaccines, milk safety and seatbelts

Skeptics, cynics and people who value individual freedom above all have long opposed public health measures in Canada — though in time, a lot of the resistance melts away.

www.thestar.com

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Right ... you got nothing so you resort to calling me names. Typical uninformed rant.

What names? There was nothing in that post calling you names.

 

[Ritafee]

Just because you think it's no big deal that it spreads and you think masks cramp your style too much, doesn't mean others are happy to drop dead from covid, for your personal individual freedom.

I think covid is going to spread whether I wear a mask or not ... and people all over the world will starve and die for lack of clean water and safe shelter whether I eat or drink or stay in my nice home or not. Covid is now proven to be no more fatal than any other virus ... it is time to move on and learn how to live with it just as we do the common cold. Adding a bunch of toxic garbage to my dress code ... you are right ... not my style ... and no one is dropping dead around me so far because of it.

 

[Ritafee]

@Ritafee you come from a not so proud Canadian tradition of the misinformed and somewhat selfish - not just you but the covid skeptics and resistors generally (with regard to science and stopping the spread of disease), it seems. This is not new.

You can call them ‘cynical spreaders.’ But the COVID-19 flouters are following a trail blazed in debates over vaccines, milk safety and seatbelts

Skeptics, cynics and people who value individual freedom above all have long opposed public health measures in Canada — though in time, a lot of the resistance melts away.

www.thestar.com

Give it a break ... I have done my research. The science is not settled. I am not misinformed. I am not selfish. I am a human inter-being with individual responsibility to govern myself accordingly.

Traditionally First Nations peoples were the original inhabitants of the land that is so-called Canada. My parents came to this Canada from Friesland. My childhood years were spent in Thompson MB ... Frisians traditionally bond with 'heathens' - my best friend growing up was from the Cree nation. I come by my holistic egalitarian freedom loving traditions through my life experience with all my relations not because I happen to have been legally registered as part and parcel of the corporation of Canada without my informed consent.

I reserve my respect for Traditional First Nations medicines and healers.

Traditional healers aid the body in its own healing process by getting to the cause of symptoms.

Traditional approaches incorporate good care of body, mind, heart, and spirit.

I am of the understanding that relationships with and connections between family members, within communities, and with the physical environment all affect health.

I favor the wisdom of traditional teachings, practices, and medicines that promote balanced health.

 

[Luce NDs]

It appears we have not kept the bug in the bag ... or baccus contained ... even the ancients put gauze over the fermentation vessels to keep the Tun from going sour ... thus the brewing monster was somewhat filtered ... admonished process of partial separation? Fractal anonymity ... as part of a much larger lesson in payne it out ...

Jesus learned of this in the PUB with taxmen, accountants and others in long black robes .. as the spirit roamed in the night to see where the gentile essence collapses ... a man in hos cups? Could be Ur ...

 

[Ritafee]

@Kimmio Laughterlove

Yes, we are testing and testing, and finding more so-called cases. As you will. But the hospitals and ICUs are virtually empty. Almost no-one is dying of Covid anymore, and most of those who do were otherwise very ill.

Instead of celebrating that, we’ve artificially created a whole new thing to scare ourselves with. We now call a positive test a Covid “case.” This is not medicine. A “case” is someone who has symptoms. A case is not someone carrying tiny amounts of virus in their nose.

Now, however, you test positive, and you’re a “case.” Never in history has medical terminology been so badly mangled. Never have statistics been so badly mangled.

When researchers look back at this pandemic, they’ll have absolutely no idea who died because of Covid, or who died –coincidentally– with it. Everything’s been mashed together in a determined effort to make the virus look as deadly as possible.

Lockdown happened because we were told that Coivid could kill one percent. But Covid was never going to kill more than about 0.1 percent – max.

That’s the figure estimated back in February, by the major players in viral epidemiology. A figure that has turned out to be remarkably accurate. Bright guys… bad mistake.

We’ve killed tens of thousands – for nothing

But because we panicked, we’ve added hugely to the toll. Excess mortality between March and May was around 70,000, not the 40,000 who died of/with Covid. Which means 30,000 may have died directly as a result of the actions we took.

We protected the young, the children, who are at zero risk of Covid. But we threw our elderly and vulnerable under a bus. The very group who should have been shielded. Instead, we caused 20,000 excess deaths in care homes.

It was government policy to clear out hospitals, and stuff care homes with patients carrying Covid, or discharge them back to their own homes, to infect their nearest and dearest. Or any community care staff who visited them.

We threw – to use health secretary Matt Hancock’s ridiculous phrase – a ring of steel around care homes. As it turned out, this was not to protect them, but to trap the residents, as we turned their buildings into Covid incubators. Anyone working in care homes, as I do, knows why we got 20,000 excess deaths. Government policy did this.

That is far from all the damage. On top of care homes, the ONS estimates that 16,000 excess deaths were caused by lockdown. The heart attacks and strokes that were not treated. The empty, echoing hospitals and A&E units. The cancer treatments stopped entirely.

Which means that at least as many people have died as a result of the draconian actions taken to combat Covid, as have been killed by the virus itself. This has been a slow-motion stampede, where the elderly – in particular - were trampled to death.

We locked down in fear. We killed tens of thousands unnecessarily, in fear. We crippled the economy, and left millions in fear of their livelihoods. We have trapped abused women and children at home with their abusers. We have wiped out scores of companies, and crushed entire industries.

We stripped out the NHS, and left millions in prolonged pain and suffering, on ever lengthening waiting lists, which have doubled. There have also been tens of thousands of delayed cancer diagnoses – the effects of which are yet to be seen, but the Lancet has estimated at least sixty thousand years of life will be lost.

Lockdown can be seen as a complete and utter disaster. And it was all based on a nonsense, a claim that Covid was going to kill one percent. A claim that can now be seen to be utterly and completely wrong. Sweden, which did not lock down, has had a death rate of 0.0058 percent.

It takes a very big person to admit they have made a horrible, terrible mistake. But a horrible, terrible mistake has been made. Let’s end this ridiculous nonsense now. And vow never to let such monumental stupidity happen ever again.

By Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here and his book, 'Doctoring Data – How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

@Kimmio Laughterlove

Yes, we are testing and testing, and finding more so-called cases. As you will. But the hospitals and ICUs are virtually empty. Almost no-one is dying of Covid anymore, and most of those who do were otherwise very ill.

Instead of celebrating that, we’ve artificially created a whole new thing to scare ourselves with. We now call a positive test a Covid “case.” This is not medicine. A “case” is someone who has symptoms. A case is not someone carrying tiny amounts of virus in their nose.

Now, however, you test positive, and you’re a “case.” Never in history has medical terminology been so badly mangled. Never have statistics been so badly mangled.

When researchers look back at this pandemic, they’ll have absolutely no idea who died because of Covid, or who died –coincidentally– with it. Everything’s been mashed together in a determined effort to make the virus look as deadly as possible.

Lockdown happened because we were told that Coivid could kill one percent. But Covid was never going to kill more than about 0.1 percent – max.

That’s the figure estimated back in February, by the major players in viral epidemiology. A figure that has turned out to be remarkably accurate. Bright guys… bad mistake.

We’ve killed tens of thousands – for nothing

But because we panicked, we’ve added hugely to the toll. Excess mortality between March and May was around 70,000, not the 40,000 who died of/with Covid. Which means 30,000 may have died directly as a result of the actions we took.

We protected the young, the children, who are at zero risk of Covid. But we threw our elderly and vulnerable under a bus. The very group who should have been shielded. Instead, we caused 20,000 excess deaths in care homes.

It was government policy to clear out hospitals, and stuff care homes with patients carrying Covid, or discharge them back to their own homes, to infect their nearest and dearest. Or any community care staff who visited them.

We threw – to use health secretary Matt Hancock’s ridiculous phrase – a ring of steel around care homes. As it turned out, this was not to protect them, but to trap the residents, as we turned their buildings into Covid incubators. Anyone working in care homes, as I do, knows why we got 20,000 excess deaths. Government policy did this.

That is far from all the damage. On top of care homes, the ONS estimates that 16,000 excess deaths were caused by lockdown. The heart attacks and strokes that were not treated. The empty, echoing hospitals and A&E units. The cancer treatments stopped entirely.

Which means that at least as many people have died as a result of the draconian actions taken to combat Covid, as have been killed by the virus itself. This has been a slow-motion stampede, where the elderly – in particular - were trampled to death.

We locked down in fear. We killed tens of thousands unnecessarily, in fear. We crippled the economy, and left millions in fear of their livelihoods. We have trapped abused women and children at home with their abusers. We have wiped out scores of companies, and crushed entire industries.

We stripped out the NHS, and left millions in prolonged pain and suffering, on ever lengthening waiting lists, which have doubled. There have also been tens of thousands of delayed cancer diagnoses – the effects of which are yet to be seen, but the Lancet has estimated at least sixty thousand years of life will be lost.

Lockdown can be seen as a complete and utter disaster. And it was all based on a nonsense, a claim that Covid was going to kill one percent. A claim that can now be seen to be utterly and completely wrong. Sweden, which did not lock down, has had a death rate of 0.0058 percent.

It takes a very big person to admit they have made a horrible, terrible mistake. But a horrible, terrible mistake has been made. Let’s end this ridiculous nonsense now. And vow never to let such monumental stupidity happen ever again.

By Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here and his book, 'Doctoring Data – How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here.

If someone tests positive with any communicable illness but no symptoms, or barely noticeable symptoms, they are a "case". The GP in England is wrong. It would be nicer to report them as patients rather than cases - but it's the same thing.

 

[Ritafee]

If someone tests positive with any communicable illness but no symptoms, they are a "case". The GP in England is wrong.

Wow ... and you call me uniformed ... at least I read something before making up my mind.
Why are you so invested in ignoring the 'facts' ... why do you want this to be far worse than it is? Are you being selfish ... are you perhaps faring better now than you did before the 'pandemic' ?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Take something like herpes - both the oral and genital simplex types. They can lay dormant for years in terms of symptoms, but can from time to time still shed communicable cells. I know someone who caught it from a partner that way. Those are both herpes cases.

 

[Ritafee]

They can lay dormant for years in terms of symptoms, but can from time to time still shed communicable cells. I know someone who caught it from a partner that way. Those are both herpes cases.

So lock up the old ladies world wide 'just-in-case? What the hell are you going on about now?

 

[Delightful Life]

Here it is. I found it.

How CDC Estimates the Burden of Seasonal Influenza in the U.S. | CDC

Links to key resources on the burden of influenza - CDC

www.cdc.gov

"CDC uses a mathematical model to estimate the numbers of influenza illnesses, medical visits, hospitalizations, and deaths in the United States, (1-4) as well as, the impact of influenza vaccination on these numbers."

So its an ESTIMATE based on an EQUATION NOT an actual empirical counting of numbers.

I wonder who here knew that?

That says to me it is pointless to compare flu deaths to covid deaths.

What to do? What to do?

#MutualAid
#BeNotAfraid
#SystemicWhimsey
#JoyPrivilege

 

[Delightful Life]

Coming soon:

When CDC LIED aboot disease cases
Preferring to terrorize people instead

#MutualAid
#BeNotAfraid
#SystemicWhimsey
#JoyPrivilege

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

Wow. No music in BC. Because covid.

 

[Delightful Life]

Trudeau!!!
There goes our economy
*joins in crying with Alberta*

So yeah I heard on CBC a prominent banquet hall owner saying they cant make money due to the silly rules which says only 50 people. When for restaurants it is 50% I think. So he was trying to get it changed to the proper 50% and if they cant then he will say close them all. So it looks like the nabobs of negativity chose not to listen to him. Oh my. This is terrible.

Skepticism indexes +1

PG-13, cant we just go around praying and sanctifying this obvious demonic and satanic influence? Sheesh. Talk aboot systemic -ism.


(Not looking 4ward 2 another lockdown)
#MutualAid
#BeNotAfraid
#SystemicWhimsey
#JoyPrivilege

 

[Northwind]

Wow. No music in BC. Because covid.

There's music in BC, just at a lower volume.

 

[Ritafee]

That says to me it is pointless to compare flu deaths to covid deaths.

Pointless indeed ... dead is dead after all.

Why beat around the bush with ... “comorbidity” factors, if more than one disease or condition is present in the same person at the same time, or chronic or long-term conditions, or coexisting or co-occurring conditions... also referred to as “multimorbidity” or “multiple chronic conditions."

Annoying conditions such as influenza and pneumonia, respiratory failure, hypertensive disease, diabetes, vascular and unspecified dementia, cardiac arrest, heart failure, renal failure, intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events, and other medical conditions ... only confuse the issues around counting covid deaths ...


The Covid Coup eliminates the problem with reporting how deaths are categorized.

The CDC tweaked how it reports coronavirus deaths ...“PIC” (PneumoniaInfluenzaCorona) ...

Exclude comorbidity factors.
Exclude recovery rates and distinctions between influenza and pneumonia.

It is what it is and apparently it is Carona ... That's a WRAP!

Experts told us ...

That the virus posed very little danger, and that it was a mortal threat to us all.

That masks were useless, and that masks were essential.

Millions continue to languish under ‘guidelines’ that make no sense ... Ay Carona!

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

U.S. State Dept.: Russia pushes COVID-19 misinformation in online network

The U.S. State Department says Russia is using a well-developed online operation that includes a loose collection of proxy websites to stir up confusion around the coronavirus by amplifying conspiracy theories and misinformation.

beta.ctvnews.ca

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

There's music in BC, just at a lower volume.

Right, like to see the science behind any of the stupid things she said. Loud music and drinking after 10 cause Covid.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Right, like to see the science behind any of the stupid things she said. Loud music and drinking after 10 cause Covid.

I thought religious fundamentalists knew it also causes demon possession and pregnancy.