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Today's Scripture ----Luke 8:40-56 GW

Jairus’ Daughter and a Woman with Chronic Bleeding

40 When Jesus came back, a crowd welcomed him. Everyone was expecting him.

41 A man named Jairus, a synagogue leader, arrived and quickly bowed down in front of Jesus. He begged Jesus to come to his home. 42 His only daughter, who was about twelve years old, was dying. As Jesus went, the people were crowding around him.

43 A woman who had been suffering from chronic bleeding for twelve years was in the crowd. No one could cure her. 44 She came up behind Jesus, touched the edge of his clothes, and her bleeding stopped at once.

45 Jesus asked, “Who touched me?”

After everyone denied touching him, Peter said, “Teacher, the people are crowding you and pressing against you.”

46 Jesus said, “Someone touched me. I know power has gone out of me.”

47 The woman saw that she couldn’t hide. Trembling, she quickly bowed in front of him. There, in front of all the people, she told why she touched him and how she was cured at once.

48 Jesus told her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace!”

49 While Jesus was still speaking to her, someone came from the synagogue leader’s home. He said, “Your daughter is dead. Don’t bother the teacher anymore.”

50 When Jesus heard this, he told the synagogue leader, “Don’t be afraid! Just believe, and she will get well.”

51 Jesus went into the house. He allowed no one to go with him except Peter, John, James, and the child’s parents. 52 Everyone was crying and showing how sad they were. Jesus said, “Don’t cry! She’s not dead. She’s just sleeping.”

53 They laughed at him because they knew she was dead. 54 But Jesus took her hand and called out, “Child, get up!” 55 She came back to life and got up at once. He ordered her parents to give her something to eat. 56 They were amazed. Jesus ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.



unsafe says -----We see in verse 40 that when Jesus comes back He was well received -----We just saw the other side of this when He was on the others side where people were begging His to Leave as they were afraid of Him ----

And So it is today ----Some of us Welcome Jesus with open arms and Rely on Him in our Lives we are hungry and thirsty for Spiritual Knowledge ----while others Reject Him and want Him gone from their lives they are not interested in gaining Spiritual Knowledge but are content to remain in The Knowledge that this world offers -----So todays Scripture is in contrast to Yesterdays ------


verses 41--42 and 49 to -56 --We see is all about Jairus's Daughter is sick and then dies and we see Jairus begging Jesus to come to his home --

unsafe says -----we see Jairus's Faith here in knowing Jesus could heal his daughter ----- the verse actually says Jairus begged Jesus to come to his home -----When we are desperate many will Beg God to Help them but God knows our hearts and if we are begging out of Fear and not Faith we will be disappointed in our outcome ----Lucky for Jairus He had probably witnessed Jesus healing others and this sparked him to believe that He could heal his daughter---- so witnessing has power to inbirth Faith and Jesus responded to that Faith in Him to get the job done -----and it worked for Jairus -----

Today all we have is God's Word but His Word has the Power to inbirth the Right Kind of Faith in us so we believe that Jesus who is the Word still heals today ----

We see Jesus calling out a command for the Child to Get Up -----He is not wishy washy in His calling out ------God Kind of Faith Produces what it is called out to do ------


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unsafe says ------Verses 43-48 ----We see the woman with the Blood disease who no one could heal and again she had God kind of Faith in Jesus to heal her ----Her faith was unwavering as she felt all she needed to do was to touch His garment and she would be healed

-----Her Faith was so Grounded and Rooted in her that nothing could move it -----and this is so rare to find today in True Christ-ians -----God's Word is the only thing that can ground and root our Faith to be unwavering and many of us don't spend enough time in the Word to strengthen and grow our Faith so that it is grounded and rooted in us ----- God's Faith is so Powerful ---He created our World and all in it by Speaking Faith Filled Words -----We have that ability as we have God in us ------How powerful is That !

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Thoughts on Luke 8:49-56...

The matter with the woman had delayed Jesus, and this was in line with his plans.

For now one of the servants of the synagogue's ruler came and told Jairus that his daughter had died, adding that he should no longer vex Jesus. All help was now too late.

Jesus wanted to strengthen the father's faith, and so told him, "Fear not, believe."

♡ Fear's a faith-enemy. For faith demands a trust. When the last breath's been drawn and 1 of our loved 1s lies quiet in death, even then trust mustn't be thrown away. Faith reaches beyond the grave. ♡

In Jairus' house all was in chaos. The mourners had arrived as early as this and were making the day awful with their noises, weeping and wailing.

Jesus emptied the house, taking only the parents and 3 of his missionaries into the room where the child lay dead. He took her hand, saying, "Maid, arise."

Her spirit returned to her. She could arise. She was returned to health. She needed food, having been without it for some time during the sickness, and she was able to take it.

Jesus retained his calm, merely impressing upon the parents the necessity of keeping the fact for themselves. He wanted no advertising of this miracle, not at this time.

Jesus has life in himself and gives it to whomsoever he will. With his human voice he called back this girl from death. Jesus' human nature has life also in humiliation. Jesus delivers from death.
 
Summary: Luke 9: 1 - 9

Jesus calls the twelve together and gives them power over demons and the ability to heal all illnesses.

He sends them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal. They are to take nothing for the journey and are to enter and stay at a house in each place. If they are not welcome in a town, they are to shake the dust off their feet as they leave. This will be a testimony against the people in that town.

Herod is perplexed at what he is hearing. Some are saying John has been raised from the dead. Others think that Elijah has reappeared or ancient prophets have arisen. Herod says, "John I beheaded, but who is this about whom I hear such things?"

And Herod tried to see Him.
 
Reflection: Luke 9: 1 - 9

Are the twelve now equipped with authority and power identical to Jesus?

Jesus is very confident the disciples will be offered lodging on their journey. They take no money with them so presumably they will be fed as well. But Jesus cautions some towns might not welcome them.

Interesting that the people in biblical times were so ready to assume John, Elijah or another ancient prophet had arisen from the dead.

And why did Herod want to see Jesus? Was Herod threatened by Him? Curious? Something else?
 
Thoughts on Luke 9:1-6...

Jesus had chosen the 12 out of the missionaries' company of that followed him. These 12, he called together for a meeting. He gave them right as his representatives.

The form in which Jesus brought the message was new. So the 12 must be clothed with power. Demons were made subject to them, and the power to heal was given to them.

☆ The demons were to be cast out, the diseases were to be healed. ☆

Then, they were sent out, their ministry's substance being the preaching of God's kingdom, supplemented by healing.

The Gospel-message must always stand first in God's kingdom and receive the focus; upon its preaching other Church ventures depend.

The 12 were to take nothing for their journey; they weren't to ready themselves and they weren't to be burdened on the way.

They were to rely on the people whom they served for their food and drink. If some people would reject them, they should show Jesus' judgment upon the city by shaking off their feet's dust.

They went forth through Galilee. In #1 place they put the Gospel, salvation's good news ; and this preaching was given the emphasis under the circumstances by the healings which were done.

Herod was living at Tiberias, a city which he'd rebuilt to fit his plans.

Here, Herod's attendants supplied him with tips regarding the movement among the people, with a hint as to its peril, for the Herodian party was strong.

The Prophet's news bothered Herod; he didn't know what to think. Reports came to him, some saying that John had risen; others, that Elijah had been revealed; others, that an old prophet had risen.

Herod's conscience was pricked, for he'd beheaded John. Now that this Prophet had arisen, with a message like the Baptist's, he wanted to see Jesus, that he might be satisfied as to his identity.

Herod's position and behavior's that of people that don't wish to break entirely with the Church. Their conscience will give them no rest; in happiness' midst their defection gives them no peace.
 
When I read Luke 9:1-6, especially the part about 'Take nothing for your journey', I always remember an elderly Jehovah's Witness who used to call on my doorstep regularly. He always had a satchel of book, pamphlets, magazines, etc, which he was happy to share. I'd ask a question,he'd pull out a pamphlet that allegedly answered it. I felt like I was talking to the publications, rather than an actual person.
I sense that Jesus is sort of saying here to the disciples, 'Trust me, and trust yourself. You don't need gimmicks, tricks, magazines etc. I'm at work in you, and I can work through you.'
 
Todays Scripture -----

Luke 9:1-9 (GW)
Jesus Sends Out the Twelve
9 Jesus called the twelve apostles together and gave them power and authority over every demon and power and authority to cure diseases. 2 He sent them to spread the message about God’s kingdom and to cure the sick.

3 He told them, “Don’t take anything along on the trip. Don’t take a walking stick, traveling bag, any food, money, or a change of clothes. 4 When you go into a home, stay there until you’re ready to leave. 5 If people don’t welcome you, leave that city, and shake its dust off your feet as a warning to them.”
6 The apostles went from village to village, told the Good News, and cured the sick everywhere.

Rumors about Jesus
7 Herod the ruler heard about everything that was happening. He didn’t know what to make of it. Some people were saying that John had come back to life. 8 Others said that Elijah had appeared, and still others said that one of the prophets from long ago had come back to life.
9 Herod said, “I had John’s head cut off. Who is this person I’m hearing so much about?” So Herod wanted to see Jesus.


unsafe says ------Verse 1 is powerful and is for us today as well -------Jesus is the fountain of Power ---The Disciples got their power from Jesus and today for True Christ-ians the Power is now in us and flows from the Holy Spirit who dwells in us ------

The Disciples were well schooled by Jesus He now gives them the Power and authority from Him to go out into the world and cast out demons and sickness but most importantly to spread the Good News of Salvation ------These men could in No Way do any of this on their own Power ---and we today Still Cannot do great works on our Own Power -------

Jesus tells His Disciples not to take anything with them in verse 3 -----3 He told them, “Don’t take anything along on the trip. Don’t take a walking stick, traveling bag, any food, money, or a change of clothes.------


unsafe says ----now many will use this as saying that people who follow Jesus are to have nothing -----That is not what this passage is saying ----Jesus says this so that visual things like walking sticks ---traveling bags etc will not distract the people from hearing the true message and will not hinder them seeing the wonders of healing -----and also they are to Rely on God to provide for their needs and by not having anything they are sending the message of God reliance not self reliance -----

This is the same for us today ------God says in His Word Which is a Promise by the way --that He will Provide for His Children and True Christ-ians need to trust God not Man to give us what we are in need of ----- This takes true Faith that is Grounded and Rooted in God and His Promises and that God will do as He says ------ Courage is needed to trust God to provide ----this comes with Maturity in Christ


unsafe says ---We note in verse 5 that Jesus tells His Disciples that if they are not welcome they are to ------5 If people don’t welcome you, leave that city, and shake its dust off your feet as a warning to them.”

What is the warning here -----That the Disciples came to preach Salvation and to free the captives of their bondage to Satan and if they refuse the message then they have no excuse to blame anyone but themselves as to where they reside in their eternal home --

unsafe says --Notice --no nasty words are said here by the Disciples for the peoples rejection -----there is no confrontations with the people ----they are simply to do a sign -----with their feet ----shake the dust off -----So why dust ---what does that mean here -----

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
earthy.
From choos; dusty or dirty (soil-like), i.e. (by implication) terrene -- earthy.

unsafe says --So we see they remain soiled ----both inside and out and they will reap their reward of their rejection to hear the Good News in their end --

And So it is today -----The People who hear the message of Salvation and accept it will be Heaven bound ----the people who reject it will not be Heaven bound and it is by their own choice ------


unsafe says --in verses 7-9 We see that Herod heard about all the goings on and he didn't know what to make of it so he went to see Jesus -----He had John killed that he did know but his guilty conscience was getting the best of him and he needed to find out who was causing all the fuss -----Was it really John or someone else ?????-----


Today it is the same for us when we have a guilty conscience we can imagine all kinds of things ---it causes big stress in our lives ---we are always looking over our shoulders to see if we will be exposed ------


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This message seems almost exactly the same as that of the sending of the 70 in Luke 10, with the exception of the bit about demons. Interesting to see it repeated in two consecutive chapters - reflecting the importance of the message?

To me the message suggests that as we go about our days to do the work of God, that we might leave behind our preconceived notions of others and our former ways of being in the world (our bags & baggage) and be open to Jesus' teaching - to anticipate transformation of ourselves, not just others through these interactions.

The part about shaking dust from our feet when unwelcome is suggestive to me of shaking off negative interactions with others, not carrying forward our grudges or perceived hurts, old ways of doing things, which in the end only weighs us down and prevents our own growth.
 
Some folk thrive on being rejected by others. It seems to prove they are following the one and only right way. Sad to observe the refusal of remedy by such folk. As it is written: “Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair.”
 
Summary: Luke 9: 10 - 17

On their return, the disciples tell Jesus all they have done on their journey. Jesus and the disciples withdraw privately to a city called Bethsaida. But the crowds learn about it and follow. Jesus welcomes them, speaks about the kingdom of God and heals those who need curing.

As day is ending, the disciples want Jesus to send the crowds away. But Jesus wants them to be fed. The disciples protest they only have five loaves and two fish. The crowd is estimated to be 5000 men. Jesus instructs the disciples to have them sit down in groups of about fifty each. After Jesus looks up to heaven and blesses the food, it is enough to feed the crown with twelve baskets of broken pieces left over.
 
Summary: Luke 9: 10 - 17

When we discussed this story on the Matthew and Mark threads, we came up with three possible explanations:

1. Miraculous/ supernatural: The food actually increases in sufficiency for the crowd with 12 baskets of pieces left over.
2. Natural: The generosity and compassion demonstrated by Jesus encourages the crowd to share what they have with each other.
3. Metaphorical/ symbolic: The bread is not really bread. Rather it is a symbol of kindness or compassion.

Interesting in this version of the story the disciples have just returned from their journey. It seems they would like some time alone with Jesus but their desire is overridden by His wish to minister to the crowd.

Today's text gives us a most compassionate Jesus.

I have been pondering what makes this story so appealing. Many of us know it well from Sunday School days and "loaves and fishes" has certainly entered the common vernacular. As a miracle, it is spectacular, but no more so than others we read about.
 
Whether the account is seen as miraculous or natural, it is certainly as metaphor. I don't think the Gospels relate the story so we can say, 'Wow!' (Though that might be an appropriate first response!). It's a metaphor when the task seems so great, and we have so little to give-- to get it started, and see what happens! Sort of like the seeds that produce large plants, or the single step that starts a journey.

Plus with the report of Jesus 'blessing and breaking' the bread, there are hints of the Last Supper/ Heavenly Feast to which all are invited.
 
@Redbaron

So many layers of meaning to this story!

Yes, the sense of having so little to give is common, I think. Don't we often give up, saying, what difference can one person make?

Sometimes having a little to give is plenty. I am reminded of how difficult it can be to to express sympathy to someone for a loss. Yet simply saying "I am sorry to hear this" can be enough, as inadequate as it feels. We know this, don't we? Yet it is still difficult and we often get trapped into thinking our comments won't make any difference, so why say anything at all?

Many moons ago, I was downsized from a management position in healthcare. So many people around me said absolutely nothing about what was happening. (An EAP counselor told me people in organizations are terrified by job loss because they fear it could happen to them.) Twenty five years later, I still remember the folks who reached out to me with a phone call or a card. Or simply said, "I am sorry about your job at the hospital."

It was enough.
 
Also I am reminded of an old family doctor of mine who once said, "It doesn't take much to be a human being." I don't remember the exact details of the story but it was in the context of showing kindness.

He was a Jewish guy with a strong spiritual sense. I never knew if he was observant or not.
 
Thoughts on Luke 9:10-11...

When the 12 returned from their 1st missionary journey, they related to Jesus what they'd done and what success they'd had. They'd worked with beginners' enthusiasm; it'd been an experience for them.

So Jesus took them along with him, he withdrew with them, on the Sea of Galilee's northeast coast, close to the river Jordan.

Jesus' withdrawal didn't stay undiscovered. The multitudes followed afoot around the lake's north end.

So Jesus' recess was short, since his heart wouldn't turn from the crowd after their trek to him. He began speaking to them, and continued for the day's larger part, on his #1 topic, God's kingdom.

Those that were in need of his healing, he ministered unto them with the compassion and power of his heart.

☆ Jesus has time for his missionaries; their prayers are never unwelcome to him; his ear's inclined to them. ☆
 
Thoughts on Luke 9:12-17...

The day began to decline, to draw near its close, bringing an interruption in Jesus' work.

The 12 felt it their duty to interfere at this point. They urged Jesus to dismiss the people.

There were towns within walking distance round about; there the people might go and find places to lodge and also provisions

Jesus gives his missionaries a lesson. He suggested that the missionaries host the multitudes.

Their faces fell. They had ascertained that there were only 5 loaves and 2 fishes as provisions. And they add, "Unless we go and buy food for the crowd." They didn't relish the idea.

One of them had even figured out that the money on hand wouldn't be enough to buy bread for all the crowd, since there were 5,000 men present, plus women and children.

This fuss with Jesus standing before them, of whom they knew that he could help even when death had claimed a person and driven away the soul. The missionaries aren't to good advantage in this story.

☆ This faith's lack's found all too often in today's missionaries. Care for the body's too apt to take the place of trust in God's goodness. If we don't receive help as quickly as we like it, then we're sad. It'd be better if we would leave God to deal with the situation and wouldn't think of what we need. ☆

Jesus now took the matter in hand. He had his missionaries tell the people to recline on the grass which grew at that place, in groups of 50 each. He was going to spread a banquet before them.

Then He took the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes and he blessed the food. Then He broke both bread and fishes into smaller pieces and gave these to his missionaries, who acted as his waiters.

All ate and were filled. They were satisfied, they'd all they wanted to eat.

And then, at Christ's command, the fragments were picked up, and these filled 12 baskets.

Christ here appears again as God, upon whom all creatures' eyes wait, that he may give them their food in due season.

There's comfort for missionaries in that Jesus has the food for every day in his hand and will give them their bread every day. They're taken care of.
 
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