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I guess a question I have is - especially in light of that movie - how do doctors go about establishing whether it is an obsession or biological? If it is an obsession or kink as in the case of my parents' friend, no big deal. The (irreversible) difference being, if someone were to have gender reassignment surgery and regret it down the road? Does this happen?
 
Kimmio said:
I guess a question I have is - especially in light of that movie - how do doctors go about establishing whether it is an obsession or biological? If it is an obsession or kink as in the case of my parents' friend, no big deal. The (irreversible) difference being, if someone were to have gender reassignment surgery and regret it down the road? Does this happen?
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I can't imagine such regret happens very often, but I have no stats to back me up on that. @RitaTG? Thing is, such surgery is a major step in someone's life. I doubt very many would have it unless they were certain that it's something that they want done.
 
Ok ... I will try and help ....
First ... gender identity "T" is not the same as sexual orientation "LGB"
Therefore a trans person also has a sexual orientation and that is best determined according to the gender they identify as.
So a trans woman that is attracted to women would be "L" and if attracted to men would be "H"
I hope that helps that part.
The reason "T" is included in the LGBTQ acronym is that way back is was considered a sexual deviancy and we were all lumped in together. Ideally we actually stand apart but I don't mind being included in the acronym.
Now for the thorny question:
Yes it is possible and quite probable for this to be much more of an obsession rather than biological and that applies to crossdressers however I will maintain that there is still a biological connection.
However .... during the dawning of awareness it is most common for a person to first identify as a crossdresser. That was also true in my case. As things progress and what has been repressed emerges more and more we find that label no longer adequate.
It takes a lot of hard work to sort things out and really understand what is going on inside.
There is no easy path and just like everyone else we get confused and sidetracked along the way.
Just because we "are" does not make us any sort of expert. We have been raised in the very same society and everyone else.
We have grown up being socially conditioned in a gender that was chosen for us at birth and that colours our perceptions of what we think a woman should be like.
There is so much relearning to do.
I hope this helps.
 
A complex situation with little to understand for those expecting simplicity! Sort of like Solomon running off with that child ...
 
Pr. Jae said:
I can't imagine such regret happens very often, but I have no stats to back me up on that. @RitaTG? Thing is, such surgery is a major step in someone's life. I doubt very many would have it unless they were certain that it's something that they want done.
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The path to SRS (sex reassignment surgery) is a long and difficult one.
There is a lot of psychological work to do before one is recommended for surgery.
Because of this difficult path the regret rate for surgery is around 1%
There are studies that claim otherwise but peer review finds those studies very unreliable.
It seems those that regret are ones that have worked to circumvent the process and fast track the surgery.
So .... here is a treatment that when applied correctly is 99% effective ..... seems pretty good treatment to me.
I dearly hope that one day I will have that privilege.
 
RitaTG said:
Ok ... I will try and help ....
First ... gender identity "T" is not the same as sexual orientation "LGB"
Therefore a trans person also has a sexual orientation and that is best determined according to the gender they identify as.
So a trans woman that is attracted to women would be "L" and if attracted to men would be "H"
I hope that helps that part.
The reason "T" is included in the LGBTQ acronym is that way back is was considered a sexual deviancy and we were all lumped in together. Ideally we actually stand apart but I don't mind being included in the acronym.
Now for the thorny question:
Yes it is possible and quite probable for this to be much more of an obsession rather than biological and that applies to crossdressers however I will maintain that there is still a biological connection.
However .... during the dawning of awareness it is most common for a person to first identify as a crossdresser. That was also true in my case. As things progress and what has been repressed emerges more and more we find that label no longer adequate.
It takes a lot of hard work to sort things out and really understand what is going on inside.
There is no easy path and just like everyone else we get confused and sidetracked along the way.
Just because we "are" does not make us any sort of expert. We have been raised in the very same society and everyone else.
We have grown up being socially conditioned in a gender that was chosen for us at birth and that colours our perceptions of what we think a woman should be like.
There is so much relearning to do.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks Rita. I hope my questions were not too uncomfortable. This was the conversation raised after the movie by my stepdad who has little experience trying to understand it and myself who has some and has since the 90s known some trans people but I guess I still have questions.
 
Kimmio said:
Thanks Rita. I hope my questions were not too uncomfortable. This was the conversation raised after the movie by my stepdad who has little experience trying to understand it and myself who has some and has since the 90s known some trans people but I guess I still have questions.
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Kimmo ... thank you.....
We need to have these uncomfortable conversations and you are safe to ask me.
This is why I started this thread in the first place...... a safe place to ask whatever....
Thank you for trusting me enough to ask...
Hugs
Rita
 
I had a friend at work in the 90s, who came out as trans several months maybe a year after I started working there. Staff were all quite accommodating, she brought medical literature, was quite open.

The boss once asked, after it was in the open, why she doesn't wear dresses! Sexist but I think he also didn't quite understand, rather than wanting to be offensive. Her response was that most of the women there were wearing pants, it was quite casual, why wouldn't she want to wear pants?

Then, once again, my roommate and I had a rooftop bbq for the fireworks and invited her over. My roommate had some pretty flamboyant gay male friends - one or two of whom crossdressed for the party (West End Vancouver in my 20s)... My friend wore cut off jean shorts and a t-shirt. Maybe a bit of eyeliner and some earrings. My roommate asked her why she didn't dress up - and she should know better than to ask, really! My friend responded "Because it's a bbq!" So, as a female she didn't have a huge need to "dress in overtly 'female' clothes" it was just a strong feeling that she was a female but she dressed fairly gender neutral most of the time. Her style of dress never really changed.
 
@RitaTG ,
I am not sure if this has been answered already, but the thread is too long to go all the way back-
What part of the process is covered by provincial health insurance ( if any)- and if not, what are the financial costs? Any different provinces handeling it differently?
 
Politicians don't like direct questions as haut potatoes ... they slyly slip these under fabrications po'ly understood by common Eire! Thus the other side is not seen in reality ... only in dreamy virtue! Kinda out-there yet ...
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
@RitaTG ,
I am not sure if this has been answered already, but the thread is too long to go all the way back-
What part of the process is covered by provincial health insurance ( if any)- and if not, what are the financial costs? Any different provinces handeling it differently?
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Good question @Mrs.Anteater .....
For everyone ... the necessary psychological assessments and therapy are NOT covered.
For Male to Female just the bottom surgery is covered and it is at least a 2 year wait from the time of approval to the surgery.
This surgery takes place in Montreal and travel to and from there is not covered nor is recovery time.
Any breast augmentation, electrolysis/laser, facial surgery etc is NOT covered.
For Female to Male the mastectomy, hysterectomy, and the bottom surgery are covered.
This surgery takes place in Montreal and travel to and from there is not covered nor is recovery time.
Any chest contouring to make the chest presentable etc are NOT covered.
For both ...... HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) is not covered.
Lupron ... the puberty blocker needed for children is NOT covered and costs about $400 per month
Ontario is the most progressive so far and those provinces that do cover anything tend to mimic Ontario.
There is a maximum quota for every province so that is quite a problem.
The out of pocket expenses are major and combine that with 51% of trans persons making $15,000 per year or less this barrier often puts Sex Reassignment Surgery well out of reach. Also ... for many ... even HRT is out of reach.
 
I don't know any trans persons (aside from Rita) but I know someone who went through ART and while the drugs (also mostly hormonal in nature) were covered by their drug plan, they ended up out of pocket for a lot of other expenses that weren't OHIP insured. I assume it is similar for the trans procedures. IOW, you can't even count on private insurance to backstop you on this one, though it could help.
 
If a woman had 2 mastectomies because of cancer in one breast and also

breast reconstruction, it would be covered by Sask medical, I believe.

Is there discrepancy between medical surgery and Trans surgery?
 
crazyheart said:
If a woman had 2 mastectomies because of cancer in one breast and also

breast reconstruction, it would be covered by Sask medical, I believe.

Is there discrepancy between medical surgery and Trans surgery?
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Yes there is ......
For trans the reconstruction etc is considered voluntary optional rather than a medical necessity
 
Thanks Rita,
Are there trans organizations that assist with finances? Or people in Montreal offering safe free overnight stays?
 
it wasn't that long ago that nothing was covered. Members of our church helped pay for someone's surgeries (I think they did a non-interest bearing loan as the person wanted to pay it back).
Things have moved a lot in terms of payment, but clearly they need to move more.
 
RitaTG said:
Kimmo ... thank you.....
We need to have these uncomfortable conversations and you are safe to ask me.
This is why I started this thread in the first place...... a safe place to ask whatever....
Thank you for trusting me enough to ask...
Hugs
Rita
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*hug*
we are fortunate to have someone like you who is both willing & able to communicate their unique culture to us heathens :3
may your power (& audience) continue to grow
 
And sure enough wee pagans are commonly around as environmental pains to the gatherers of wealth that would wish we would mentally disembark so they could have our physical possession without the metaphysical parts ... that are now out there behind what's beyond so as to be innate! Being thus contained in the unknown spot (x) we are considered in the dark ...

Repaid all we owed ... due to the initial giving? Someone thus (due to logic) got it as recipient of the initial end IDe? It is a primal power that comes between two compressed by gravitas!

There is a large cluster that say this is Allah gory ... plasma-like's in! Celestial in nova -8'n as when you see stars when they isn't ... you know you've been cranked up emotionally until not thinking, an incarnate vision?
 
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