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PilgrimsProgress said:
Can you be a Christian if you see Jesus as a prophet worth following in the way you wish to live out your life?
Is it necessary to believe that Jesus was divine?

Can you be a Christian if you don't believe Jesus died for your sins?

Can you be a Christian if you don't believe in a physical resurrection, but see resurrection as a metaphor for being born again to a life following the way of Jesus?
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So it seems that I never really responded to the OP. Personally, I think you can be Christian regardless of how you answer all these questions. I see it as a defining yourself as relating to God through following Jesus Christ, period. All else is details of HOW you follow Jesus Christ and WHY you follow Jesus Christ. I do wonder how one can truly "follow Jesus Christ" without believing, as he very clearly did, in a "parental" (perhaps not literally, but in some sense) Deity of some kind. Even if you think Jesus himself was a human prophet rather than a literal Son of God, a prophet is still a messenger from the Divine.
 
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Mendalla ------Your Quote ----- Personally, I think you can be Christian regardless of how you answer all these questions. I see it as a defining yourself as relating to God through following Jesus Christ, period.

unsafe says -----I agree anyone can call themselves a Christian ------nothing stopping anyone from doing that ------


Mendalla -----Your Quote ---- I see it as a defining yourself as relating to God through following Jesus Christ, period.

unsafe says ----How can a person define themselves as having a connection to God through Following Jesus Christ when Jesus is God -----To Follow Jesus is to say you believe who He said He was ----The Son Of God ------so if you don't believe by Faith that Jesus is the Son of God the connection is broken in my view -------


Mendalla -----Your Quote -----All else is details of HOW you follow Jesus Christ and WHY you follow Jesus Christ.

unsafe says ----all else is necessary ---you can't just through it aside and say it doesn't matter ------The How and Why are important ---you have to have a reason as to why you follow a person and you have to know why --the reason you want to follow that person ------


Mendalla --Your Quote -----I do wonder how one can truly "follow Jesus Christ" without believing, as he very clearly did, in a "parental" (perhaps not literally, but in some sense) Deity of some kind

unsafe says ---here you then wander how one can follow Jesus without believing ------so here it seem you change your thinking from your above quote ----and agree that believing in who Jesus says He was is really needed -----Which I agree with ----


Mendalla ----your quote ------Even if you think Jesus himself was a human prophet rather than a literal Son of God, a prophet is still a messenger from the Divine.

unsafe says -----There are 2 divine beings Mendalla ---Satan is divine and God is Divine ------so there are 2 types of Prophets ----True Prophet and False Prophet ---So believing that Jesus is a Human Prophet only is not from the True Prophet --it comes from the False Prophet ------because The True Divine Word says Jesus was 100% human and 100% Divine not just a Human Prophet ----- No one can just split Jesus up and say ---OH I only will follow Jesus humans side but not Hid Divine side ------If you Follow Jesus you follow both Sides ----Period ---and if you reject Jesus divine side of bring the Son --you reject the His Father who sent Him ------So the only other Prophet to follow is Satan ----and there you follow the False Prophets --- So your message will be the wrong divine Message not the True Divine one -----
 
@unsafe, you can see that your belief system is not monotheistic, based on your description above, with Satan as "divine". It is rather dualism, a heresy in Christianity with fairly ancient roots.

"In religion, dualism means the belief in two supreme opposed powers or gods, or sets of divine or demonic beings, that caused the world to exist. ... Both radical and mitigated types of dualism are found among different groups of the late medieval Cathari, a Christian heretical movement closely related to the Bogomils." from Britannica.com
 
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@unsafe, you can see that your belief system is not monotheistic, based on your description above, with Satan as "divine". It is rather dualism, a heresy in Christianity with fairly ancient roots.

"In religion, dualism means the belief in two supreme opposed powers or gods, or sets of divine or demonic beings, that caused the world to exist. ... Both radical and mitigated types of dualism are found among different groups of the late medieval Cathari, a Christian heretical movement closely related to the Bogomils." from Britannica.com
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you think its dualism because in your understanding, gods are all equal , they are not. There is only One God who can create, and His name is Yahway. Satan is a created angel , created by Yahway, though satan holds the office of god on earth, satan cannot create , nore does satan have any power, or hold any Glorious attributes as the Creator Yahway.

God is not a name, God is a Tittle , same as the Pharisees how they held the position of god over its people but did not act in accordance of the office they held, so Jesus called them out on it. Or like Mr President is not the Presidents name , its the office he holds.

Dualism calls for equality, there is no equality with the Creator Yahway, satan DOES Not , NORE Can act in equal opposition to the Creator but acts in absent of Yahway.

Like , Light and darkness, at first glance them seem opposite, but Light and darkness ARE NOT equally opposite, darkness is simply what we call the absence of Light, turn off the light and you have , Nothing .
 
De Light of Christ races past ... heading for dark areas!

Thus we folk of shadowy nature ... adept to alien antimatter ... stuff of phantom essence!

In foreign shades these rites make the righteous ... uneasy!
 
I am not trying to be too righteous. Maybe the rapper thought he was being ironic...or copying Weird Al Yankovich. But the idea of a white guy dressed up as a clownish representation of a black rapper, to save a black kid from the ghetto and bring him to Jesus - and then leave the neighbourhood and ride off into the sunset together, is just a bit racist. It’s quite an assumption being made by the person who did the video, that that’s what black kids or people in predominently poor black neighbourhoods need. Shades of colonialism?
 
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The rapper was. And he was being a parody of a rapper. @Mrs.Anteater

And some of the lyrics...like “you’ll be so stunned you’d think you were tased?”...uh...it just sound like a privileged person without a clue thinking they were sounding cool. I did some digging and the video was made by some evangelical group.
 
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What makes
An Anglican? Egg salad sammiches
An Episcopalean? Flower arranging outreach
UCoC? Gretta Vosper

Feel free to add more :3
 
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