Even a little child could teach you.
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blackbelt1961
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so a little child taught your belief ?
chansen
Had a point all along
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If the Bible shows God's nature, then God is a sadistic jerk. Or at least, "sadistic jerk" is part of his personality profile.
Your main hope is that the Bible isn't accurate. That doesn't fly with unsafe and blackbelt, because their world comes crashing down if the bible is not accurate.
unsafe
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Waterfall ---your quote ------If an interpretation does not lead to a loving God, I believe the interpretation is wrong.
God's word give you all the answers ---your looking for in why God gave Abraham this command ------and your saying that scripture is wrong in what it says just because you don't see the Love in what God ask Abraham to do ---- so your saying that your interpretation weighs more that God's --Wow ----you see no love in what God did with Abraham so you call God a barbaric God -----
Your quote -----Does this offend your "Christian" sensibilities?
Nothing you can says offends me Waterfall ---I am way passed that ------I am a Christ---ian not a Christian -----God knows your heart Waterfall and heard what you call Him ---Don't know if He is Offended by your calling Him barbaric or not ------
You see I have fully mastered this Scripture -----by much practice ---got a lot of practice on the winder café 1 and 2 ----
Luke 10:19 ----
KJ21
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
But this is what God says in His word ------Matthew 15:11 ESV ---11 (A)it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
James 3:10 ----
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Out of the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. These things, my brothers, should not be this way [for we have a moral obligation to speak in a manner that reflects our fear of God and profound respect for His precepts].
So a Person who calls themselves a Christian should want to praise God not call Him barbaric ------ just my view
God's word give you all the answers ---your looking for in why God gave Abraham this command ------and your saying that scripture is wrong in what it says just because you don't see the Love in what God ask Abraham to do ---- so your saying that your interpretation weighs more that God's --Wow ----you see no love in what God did with Abraham so you call God a barbaric God -----
Your quote -----Does this offend your "Christian" sensibilities?
Nothing you can says offends me Waterfall ---I am way passed that ------I am a Christ---ian not a Christian -----God knows your heart Waterfall and heard what you call Him ---Don't know if He is Offended by your calling Him barbaric or not ------
You see I have fully mastered this Scripture -----by much practice ---got a lot of practice on the winder café 1 and 2 ----
Luke 10:19 ----
KJ21
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
But this is what God says in His word ------Matthew 15:11 ESV ---11 (A)it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
James 3:10 ----
AMP
Out of the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. These things, my brothers, should not be this way [for we have a moral obligation to speak in a manner that reflects our fear of God and profound respect for His precepts].
So a Person who calls themselves a Christian should want to praise God not call Him barbaric ------ just my view
Personally, I don't feel God is offended if @Waterfall or anyone else calls him barbaric, or wonders if he is barbaric, in an honest attempt to understand him better.
blackbelt1961
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That would be because God dealt with the Judgement issue to not violate His Love , I do find it interesting though , and I am just generalizing, I dont mean you JAE, how people stop at the fact that God is Love and completely ignore the rest of His attributes to a point of non existent because they are not comfortable in a God who Possesses such powers, in effect putting there comfort level before the Creator
Read this again unsafe and Jae......."I do not believe God is barbaric"
The story of Abraham and Isaac has many, many interpretations....not just the one you and Gotquestions have come up with unsafe. Most point to God testing Abraham.....but there are many others. Why? because it is controversial and demands sense being made out of it.
Did I say that?
blackbelt1961
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ok and what is your interpretation ?
Thank you Waterfall, we stand corrected. That said, I do believe what I wrote. I believe that God wants us to understand him and won't be offended if someone journeys through a point when they do consider him barbaric.
chansen
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By "demands more sense be made out of it," what you really mean is, "twist it until all the bad stuff is gone."
You lose credibility every time you do this. You can not just take every story that offends an evolved morality, and hack away at it until it fits. People notice.
Do Christians believe that the OT stories point to the resurrection and hope of Jesus? Then how do you believe the story of Abraham and Isaac relates to the story about God sacrifing his son Jesus, using your own interpretation of the Abraham story?
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blackbelt1961
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you said " even a little child could teach you " you also said : I personally believe God has made it possible for anyone to know Him, even without Jesus.
so I am asking how YOU , not the presumption that a child could teach , but you Directly, how do you know God without Jesus?
I mean as far as I know even other religions and New Age all Draw on Christ , so How do you personally know God without referring to Jesus
do you know God that He has a Son?
Much that same as you have chosen to misinterpret my own personal intentions rather than actually listen to me. You insist you know what I'm doing and why. According to you I'm twisting all the bad stuff, according to me I'm searching for the story to reveal the truth.
blackbelt1961
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and that is not all correct and half the story , that is not all Christians believe , before the OT pointing to the Savior it first teaches what we are in reflection to the Law, the Name of God, His exclusliveness & His abilities
That God spared Abraham's son but did not spare his own reveals something about the quality of his love. Jesus is voluntarily the lamb who was slaughtered to set us free.
So you don't think that those interpreting God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son relates to God sacrificing His own son?