US Election result?

[BetteTheRed]

i get trump lovers are sad.

I, too, understand that. No-one likes to lose.

However, what surprises me is that this would make any Canadian "sad". Realistically, the Democratic party's platform is way to the right of any Canadian political party's. Any Canadian, who lives here, in relative peace and prosperity, who thought that something like the GOP, especially in conjunction with their current Clown-in-Chief, could possibly improve a single Canadian's quality of life, is drinking something that's affecting their ability to analyze simple facts.

Rita's probably right. The only "election result" that this counts is how Americans would describe themselves as sad. Currently, and disgustedly, I'd describe them all that way.

 

[unsafe]

Northwind ---you said ----Hell, even Fox News is saying Biden win

I say ---Ya and Fox news is the Media ---they are not the Electoral College who has to certify who the winner is ----so keep on with your Fox News and CNN and other Media who are not the ones who say --Who won the Election yet ---

If Biden is declared the winner by the Electoral College ---then and only then is Biden the winner -------the New Media has no say in it at all ------and if you do some research on the Electoral College they don't meet until Dec -

We can say what we like but for many ---this is not over yet --------and the Mainstream Media can continue to say Biden is the winner ----but he is not yet --the winner of the Election ----until the Electoral College says so -----

Matt Gaetz Calls for Full Election Audit and Threatens to Fight to ‘Stop the Electoral College from Being Certified’​

Matt Gaetz Threatens to Fight Electoral College Certification

Congressman Matt Gaetz actually threatened on Fox News Friday night that he would fight to "stop the electoral college from being certified" if it comes to that.

www.mediaite.com

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By Josh FeldmanNov 7th, 2020, 12:46 am

Congressman Matt Gaetz actually threatened on Fox News Friday night that he would fight to “stop the electoral college from being certified” if it comes to that.

Sean Hannity — who has been repeatedly sowing doubt about the election and telling his viewers they would be right not to trust the results — brought on several Republicans to back up the Trump team’s legal battle.

Gaetz talked up the system in Florida before declaring that “every state legislature seeing these irregularities should demand an audit, and they should not be willing to certify electors to the electoral college until those audits have been completed.”

“If we allow ballots to be counted without the transparency and observation that the law requires, Republicans will never win another election ever again. That is what’s at stake,” Gaetz cnntinued.

He attacked Republicans “who are ready to throw in the towel now” and said every single one of them needs to fight for the president on this.

As the segment wrapped, Gaetz made a point of actually saying this:

“A full audit is absolutely necessary, we should get injunctions if necessary. And if I have to do it, I’ll fight on the floor of the House of Representatives to stop the electoral college from being certified. We only need one senator to join to ensure that that challenge will then be subject to a full vote of the Congress and the Senate.”

 

[Waterfall]

Northwind ---you said ----Hell, even Fox News is saying Biden win

I say ---Ya and Fox news is the Media ---they are not the Electoral College who has to certify who the winner is ----so keep on with your Fox News and CNN and other Media who are not the ones who say --Who won the Election yet ---

If Biden is declared the winner by the Electoral College ---then and only then is Biden the winner -------the New Media has no say in it at all ------and if you do some research on the Electoral College they don't meet until Dec -

We can say what we like but for many ---this is not over yet --------and the Mainstream Media can continue to say Biden is the winner ----but he is not yet --the winner of the Election ----until the Electoral College says so -----

Matt Gaetz Calls for Full Election Audit and Threatens to Fight to ‘Stop the Electoral College from Being Certified’​

Matt Gaetz Threatens to Fight Electoral College Certification

Congressman Matt Gaetz actually threatened on Fox News Friday night that he would fight to "stop the electoral college from being certified" if it comes to that.

www.mediaite.com

​

By Josh FeldmanNov 7th, 2020, 12:46 am

Congressman Matt Gaetz actually threatened on Fox News Friday night that he would fight to “stop the electoral college from being certified” if it comes to that.

Sean Hannity — who has been repeatedly sowing doubt about the election and telling his viewers they would be right not to trust the results — brought on several Republicans to back up the Trump team’s legal battle.

Gaetz talked up the system in Florida before declaring that “every state legislature seeing these irregularities should demand an audit, and they should not be willing to certify electors to the electoral college until those audits have been completed.”

“If we allow ballots to be counted without the transparency and observation that the law requires, Republicans will never win another election ever again. That is what’s at stake,” Gaetz cnntinued.

He attacked Republicans “who are ready to throw in the towel now” and said every single one of them needs to fight for the president on this.

As the segment wrapped, Gaetz made a point of actually saying this:

It is my understanding that there are steps to that process and as each questionable state has admitted there was no wrong doing, it will not move beyond that.

 

[Redbaron]

and if you do some research on the Electoral College they don't meet until Dec -

And if YOU did any research on the Electoral College, you'd find that each state's law outline how their college members will vote, depending on the outcome of the vote count in their state. Biden has clinched enough EC votes to win. In other words, it's all over except for tRump's lies and whines. Mr. Gaetz can bluster all he wants. Like ancient King Knute trying to order the tide not to come in, Mr. Gaetz is basically urinating into the wind.

 

[unsafe]

Waterfall ----you said ---- is my understanding that there are steps to that process and as each questionable state has admitted there was no wrong doing, it will not move beyond that.

I say ---I am sure there are steps to this process and I am sure that this person knows the steps to be taken for this process ---Like Biden said to Trump ----Come On Man !---do you really believe the Stares there Waterfall are going to Admit Fraud in their State -----if you do then you are being duped -------The States will never admit Fraud in their States ---it would be an embarrassment to them and make their State look bad -----

Corruption is in the Election there is no question -----no one has ever exposed it ----Trump is exposing the corruption ------and good on him for doing that ------just like the corruption of the church was exposed in time ------

-----Jesus is saying this ----read all in context here

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 12:2 - Easy-to-Read Version

Everything that is hidden will be shown, and everything that is secret will be made known.

classic.biblegateway.com

Luke 12:2 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)​

2 Everything that is hidden will be shown, and everything that is secret will be made known.

I say -----Corruption can go on and on for decades without notice -----but then when all the cupboards get filled up and all the drawers get filled up and all that has been swept under the carpets have been exhausted ----there is no where for the corruption left to hid in ----it comes out in the open -------


This is from Bible hub -----https://biblehub.com/luke/12-2.htm

Study Bible
The Leaven of the Pharisees
1In the meantime, a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling one another. Jesus began to speak first to His disciples: “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known.

3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.…

I say -----So you all can carry on with your frame of mind -----but just maybe God is at work here ------- Just because many may hot think so ----does not mean that He is not in the mix here ------just saying

 

[unsafe]

Redbarron ----your just trying to be right -----this election has not been called yet ----and that is the truth that you and others refuse to acknowledge -------and that is your right -----so stay with view ---if that is what floats your boat ----there are many with their head in the sand as to the fraud that is going on -------so be right in your mind -----

 

[GeoFee]

I say -----Corruption can go on and on for decades without notice -----but then when all the cupboards get filled up and all the drawers get filled up and all that has been swept under the carpets have been exhausted ----there is no where for the corruption left to hid in ----it comes out in the open -------

Well put. We are about to reap what we have sown.

 

[GeoFee]

America, as do other democracies, lives in an illusion. From the outset clear seers have made this plain. The pattern is noticed and clearly defined in Plato’s “Gorgias”. Persons exercising power, in service to privilege, turn citizens to consumers. This by the seductions of advertising.

For me modern elections are like the puppet play “Punch and Judy”, serving as a distraction while corporate powers spoil the planet and its peoples.

 

[Ritafee]

As long as people misplace the root causes of the problem by picking puppets in the phony left vs. right paradigm, it’s business as usual for the criminal puppet masters behind the scenes.

Decades of continued wealth inequality and power centralization don’t exactly offer any glimmers of hope that the democratic process is just, and represents the will of the people.

The reality of the situation is that no matter who gets elected, these politicians have already made a Faustian bargain to keep the police and warfare state in power.

In today’s political climate, it is no longer a question of which party is in power, or which party will usher in totalitarianism.

Instead, we have reached a point of simply waiting for the hammer to finally fall.

 

[Northwind]

Corruption is in the Election there is no question -----no one has ever exposed it ----Trump is exposing the corruption ------and good on him for doing that ------just like the corruption of the church was exposed in time ------

And trump has participated fully in that corruption. He is no angel.

 

[Ritafee]

And if YOU did any research

Repeating MSM propaganda is not research.
Censoring my posts is not research.
To be an echo in the chamber that perpetuates chaos at all costs ... no research required.
So what research have you done?

 

[Ritafee]

And trump has participated fully in that corruption. He is no angel.

Being a 'successful' politician only happens if one knows how to play the game; and it is a wildly corrupt game.

A politician knows that the goal is to get elected, at all costs.

After that, it only matters what the party thinks, and the people become irrelevant.

a Princeton study actually quantifies that irrelevancy.

Even if you vote, or not, and your party wins, or not, the police state will continue.

Constantly voting for the lesser of two evils has manifested into an inevitable cycle.

The government gets more powerful and the people get poorer.

 

[GeoFee]

America, as do other democracies, lives in an illusion. From the outset clear seers have made this plain. The pattern is noticed and clearly defined in Plato’s “Gorgias”. Persons exercising power, in service to privilege, turn citizens to consumers. This by the seductions of advertising.

For me modern elections are like the puppet play “Punch and Judy”, serving as a distraction while corporate powers spoil the planet and its peoples.

From "Gorgias": "... we can win happiness only by bending all our own efforts and those of the state to the realization of uprightness and self-discipline, not by allowing our appetites to go unchecked, and, in an attempt to satisfy their endless importunity, leading the life of a brigand..."

 

[Lastpointe]

What is sad in this debacle to me is how the Republican Party has bought 8nti this and is allowing the infant in chief to dispute the election results. And make it seem like elections are rigged

honestly , they are rigged. The republicans have been gerrymandering so many districts that even though they almost always get a minority of the votes in states they get a majority of the seats

for all the complaints about Canadian elections in various points it certainly shows me that we are doing exceedingly well comparatively

 

[Redbaron]

Repeating MSM propaganda is not research.
Censoring my posts is not research.

Just as a point of order, I am not repeating 'NSM propaganda.' I am citing American law.
Censoring your posts has nothing to do with research. And if they were censored, they would disappear forever, never to be seen again. All we are doing is keeping your posts in the proper place.

 

[Redbaron]

there are many with their head in the sand as to the fraud that is going on -

All right, present your evidence. What fraud is going on? And if it is so apparent, why can't the tRump campaign prove anything in the courts?
That Trump has far fewer votes, both popular AND electoral, is NOT evidence of fraud, no matter how he complains and whines and lies.
That Matt Gaetz continues to shoot off his mouth like a cannon is NOT evidence.
That a lot of "Christian" leaders like Falwell Jr and F Graham disagree with the outcome is NOT evidence.
That a bunch of protesters show up against the results of the election is NOT evidence.
That a bunch of delusional YouTube videos continue to obfuscate reality is NOT evidence.
Do you have and HARD DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE to present? If so, bring it on already. And don't waste our time repeated the same, discredited bovine byproducts you've come up with so far.
.

 

[Luce NDs]

As long as people misplace the root causes of the problem by picking puppets in the phony left vs. right paradigm, it’s business as usual for the criminal puppet masters behind the scenes.

Decades of continued wealth inequality and power centralization don’t exactly offer any glimmers of hope that the democratic process is just, and represents the will of the people.

The reality of the situation is that no matter who gets elected, these politicians have already made a Faustian bargain to keep the police and warfare state in power.

In today’s political climate, it is no longer a question of which party is in power, or which party will usher in totalitarianism.

Instead, we have reached a point of simply waiting for the hammer to finally fall.

In between all the crap in a mean ... a red line dividing the portions of rational vs irrational ... few see it as elusive divide!

 

[unsafe]

Northwind -----And trump has participated fully in that corruption. He is no angel.

I say ---I agree he is no angel ---but here is the thing ---he has the gumption to expose the voter fraud that probably has been going on for decades -and not challenged to a full extent that he is willing to take it -----this needs to be cleared up to make sure the American people can have trust in the voting system ------I know Al Gore had counts redone when he ran in 2000---but I know nothing about what went on with it ------

If Biden is the winner then it will be announced by the right source ----at the right time ----that is how I see it

 

[Luce NDs]

Is there a source of rite ... in a world that worships things as they leis ... lightly as in levity!

One side or the other will say this is leviathan ... monstrous!

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

The one actual voter fraud charge I read about was a Trump voter getting caught requesting a mail in ballot for his dead mother. So, sure, look into it - they're going to find more voter fraud from Trump's people, and his USPS Director meddling. It will be minimal too probably, and won't change the outcome. Even one of Trump's top guys - I think he's with Homeland Security, said there's no evidence of the type of widespread fraud that would change the results. It's been a very secure election because they weren't taking chances after the 2016 shinnanigans. . He is calling for people to stop the nonsense. The courts are rejecting Trump's cases. He lost.

Interestingly, I heard on a "left progressive" podcast, a pundit saying that Fox News Desk - during elections counts - has some integrity and has a history, of all networks, of calling the election accurately. So if they're calling it for Biden, Biden is the winner. Trump wouldn't be able to catch up to him anyway unless he trying to steal it. And nobody's going to let him. Trump just doesn't want to hear it - he's not capable of taking loss like a gentleman and a statesman - and he wants to lead his supporters along to continue fulfilling his obsessive need for attention.

Also, ever the huckster, Roger Stone, convicted felon "dirty trickster" is behind the "stop the steal" campaign. He did the same thing, with likely support from the Russians, before the 2016 election - to cast doubt. There is a massive fraudulent disinformation effort going on, and it's not the Democrats doing it.