TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

So it's okay with you that the adults around them don't comfort them?

No. That’s not what I said. I just don’t think it’s the main point. The main point here is they wouldn’t be crying from separation from their parents if the Trump administration wasn’t separating them. A bunch of strangers tasked with holding them captive after their parents have been taken away, yet hugging them, is cold comfort compared to what should be done. And, some of them might be terrified to have those strangers hugging them - because what they are going through is frightening and confusing. I considered that, too. And, also, what they were fleeing from was also frightening and confusing. Trusting strangers just might not be easy for them right now.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

The decision to treat all asylum seekers as criminals is new and the responsibility of the Trump administration. The separation of children from parents, even when potentially legitimate asylum seekers, by treating them as criminals, is 100% reversible by Trump alone. This decision has nothing to do with Democrats, but that's how the Republicans, including Melania, are spinning it. The separated families are now a bargaining chip for funding Trump's wall.

The vast majority of asylum seekers are legitimate. And even if they are not, their kids shouldn’t be treated as criminals.

 

[Lastpointe]

I don’t think you can make that statement. You don’t know that

These are people illegally entering the USA. That is not in question.

The difference now is that Trump has decided to criminally prosecute the adults. That means locking up the adults and they can’t have children in lock up with them

That is trump decision, he is trying to force congress to change the immigration laws to what he wants.

In the past, these illegal immigrants were not criminally charged while waiting for their hearings

We also have our recent illegal immigrant crisis. Also a trump problem. We are allowing people in, to get hearings. But most are being denied.

 

[Lastpointe]

I can’t believe they are doubling down on this. The entire thing is appalling

And I find it incredible that anyone could see the pictures and video and not be angry at the government

I am really appalled that gutless republicans are not up in arms. But they aren’t. They have seen that if they don’t support trump he black balls them in elections and they fear for their jobs

I would hope some might fear for the country instead. But the rare ones who speak out are mainly those who are not running again

 

[Lastpointe]

An interesting thing to watch with trump is how he changes the news stories

So last week, it was all about Korea. How he embraced a dictator, ridiculed the G7, seemed to get very little other than photos in Singapore

Then the news was his ex lawyer Cohen is likely assisting with the Russia investigation

Then the news was he and his foundation were being sued. And his ex campaign manager was jailed


All bad nes stories on many fronts

Now though. Only immigration stories. And they are sickening. But it makes you wonder why now. This has been happening for two months.

He needed to change the story. And he knows that a lot of Americans are unhappy with immigration

Across the world countries struggle to handle the massive flood of economic migrants

People always immigrated for economic reasons. A better life....... just not in such huge numbers. Or it is that we believe in being immigrants ourselves or our ancestors, but not those people

He has changed the story. It feels like a misstep, because of the huge backlash. But I wonder. What do his voters think?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I don’t think you can make that statement. You don’t know that

These are people illegally entering the USA. That is not in question.

The difference now is that Trump has decided to criminally prosecute the adults. That means locking up the adults and they can’t have children in lock up with them

That is trump decision, he is trying to force congress to change the immigration laws to what he wants.

In the past, these illegal immigrants were not criminally charged while waiting for their hearings

We also have our recent illegal immigrant crisis. Also a trump problem. We are allowing people in, to get hearings. But most are being denied.

Asylum seekers are not illegal!

 

[Delightful Life]

yes
it is interesting
seeing the corporate media stories
their narratives, what they want to promote
who they want to turn into the monster of the week
who they want to elevate
these unelected brokers of reality

Trump is very good at fooling with that

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

In many cases the asylum seekers were turned away at legal processing centres and told they were full. Or stopped before they got there. And when turned away, the crossed at the illegal entry points between. Once caught, it is perfectly legal to request asylum.

Trump keeps making it harder for people to seek asylum legally

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Most are not economic migrants. They are fleeing from violence in their countries.

 

[Lastpointe]

That may very well be true. But the act of crossing the border is illegal

It is here too

A country has a right to maintain its borders. We certainly do. Just look at all the people who illegally cross from New York in Quebec. They are detained, not just sent in their way

Lately every plane I have been on from Heathrow makes you show your pass port at the exit door. It is solely to stop people from getting off the plane and saying they have no papers and claiming refugee status. I have seen people turned back at the door to the plane. Still in the plane, then you ar technically still on British property, not Canada

The issue isn’t whether these people are persecuted or economic migrants

The issue is that trump has changed the handling of them. Now they are arrested. And children can’t be housed with adults

It is odious

He is doing it so that Democrats will give in and fund his bloody wall

That it is in the news this week, after occurring for two months is curious to me

Let’s hope that finally, this is an issue that will cause the population to rise up

It in all the news stories I have been watching I have yet to see an interview with a trump supporter. Or if I have I didn’t realise it

I am waiting to see if there are people, other than trump and his odious lot, who will agree with it. I bet there are. Illegal immigration through Mexico is a really big issue in the USA

But let’s hope that someone sees the need to stop this

 

[Delightful Life]

Confused as I am?


Herez an attempt at dispelling the confusion:

Analysis | Fact-checking immigration spin on separating families and 1,500 ‘lost’ children

 

[Luce NDs]

Confused as I am?


Herez an attempt at dispelling the confusion:

Analysis | Fact-checking immigration spin on separating families and 1,500 ‘lost’ children

What does the public arena really know of what is going on under the cover of extreme politicking that is sheer chaos … agora …
fear of exposure in that circle?

Are their indeterminates existing that believe they are determining factors? Given empirical aspirations … anything can happen as knowing is not desired given by the spread of grief we experience … thus vast unknowns!

The book rules that is best if we are extremely passionate thus depressing knowledge … a weird allegory!

 

[revjohn]

I can’t believe they are doubling down on this.

You can't? What was it about Trump during his campaign that led you to conclude that he would be gracious and compassionate once he took office? What have you seen since Trump took office and selected a cabinet that led you to conclude that his presidency would make a positive difference for the poor and oppressed?

The entire thing is appalling

Agreed. It is.

But not surprising is it?

And I find it incredible that anyone could see the pictures and video and not be angry at the government

In all fairness, there aren't a lot of white children in the cages so a certain segment of the President's base will remain unmoved. On the plus side, we are hearing from some Republicans who cozied up to Trump that this is not right and that might lead to something being done.

I am really appalled that gutless

republicans are not up in arms. But they aren’t.

The gutless are never the first in line when courage is called for. So where are the Republicans of principle and conviction? Don't the Republicans bill themselves as the family values party?

They have seen that if they don’t support trump

he black balls them in elections and they fear for their jobs

Which explains the silence of the gutless. It doesn't address the silence of the gutful.

I would hope some might fear for the country instead. But the rare ones who speak out are mainly those who are not running again

Courageous leadership arises when there is no tomorrow. To many counting on tomorrow being comfortable for them if not for others.

 

[Luce NDs]

You can't? What was it about Trump during his campaign that led you to conclude that he would be gracious and compassionate once he took office? What have you seen since Trump took office and selected a cabinet that led you to conclude that his presidency would make a positive difference for the poor and oppressed?



Agreed. It is.

But not surprising is it?



In all fairness, there aren't a lot of white children in the cages so a certain segment of the President's base will remain unmoved. On the plus side, we are hearing from some Republicans who cozied up to Trump that this is not right and that might lead to something being done.


The gutless are never the first in line when courage is called for. So where are the Republicans of principle and conviction? Don't the Republicans bill themselves as the family values party?


Which explains the silence of the gutless. It doesn't address the silence of the gutful.



Courageous leadership arises when there is no tomorrow. To many counting on tomorrow being comfortable for them if not for others.

Ignore it … first step in the Kubler-Ross curve as shoving things below ground zero and thus awareness becomes a negative form like a dark spirit … entombed in the spine of a myth? May reoccur as a prick of con science?

Some lost it … thus Haggadah's end … ragged thoughts from the outside market? Utopian … not realistic in the present public circle … less agora phobia? Thoughts a shy and slippery in a brute environment … trumps lucid Ness … clearly but obscure or abstract … that's a dark hue … a spectre off stage?

First the mine must be constructed as a hollow reed … well read strength? That's Scarlet … perhaps Cimarron as toxic to desires … even though she might walk like an angel … second, know your myths, even your's elf!

 

[Jaebius]

The state of the nation - Nick Anderson by Nick Anderson for Jun 19, 2018 | GoComics.com

 

[Luce NDs]

The state of the nation - Nick Anderson by Nick Anderson for Jun 19, 2018 | GoComics.com

Co median ... divisive literature ... comes in layers of understanding ... few see thro' on the first Passover ...

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

‘INFEST’ — The Ugly Nazi History of Trump’s Chosen Verb

 

[Luce NDs]

Infest ... what a totally spiritual-emotional being experiences when encountering strange intelligence?

The spirit thus passes as a geist ... leaving nothing but thought ... what the opinionated believe thought is ... nothing but spatial!

Agora?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

10-year-old with Down syndrome taken from her mother at the U.S. border, Mexico says