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revsdd said:
(2) Melania Trump has somewhat gently disagreed with the immigration policy.

Her Communications Director says "Mrs Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart."
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The decision to treat all asylum seekers as criminals is new and the responsibility of the Trump administration. The separation of children from parents, even when potentially legitimate asylum seekers, by treating them as criminals, is 100% reversible by Trump alone. This decision has nothing to do with Democrats, but that's how the Republicans, including Melania, are spinning it. The separated families are now a bargaining chip for funding Trump's wall.
 
chansen said:
The decision to treat all asylum seekers as criminals is new and the responsibility of the Trump administration. The separation of children from parents, even when potentially legitimate asylum seekers, by treating them as criminals, is 100% reversible by Trump alone. This decision has nothing to do with Democrats, but that's how the Republicans, including Melania, are spinning it. The separated families are now a bargaining chip for funding Trump's wall.
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I know that. It's why I called it a "gentle" disagreement with the policy, which I think is made more clear by "she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart."
 
Fascist Christians are not the only 'religious' players driving politics ... consider Militant Islamism

  • commitment to violence is a minority ideology born from the womb of Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabism, an ultraorthodox brand of Islam.
  • at the same time, it is also a response to the blatant injustices and iniquities embedded in the NWO.

No doubt this particular ideology, which has given birth to a number of representative agencies from Al-Qaeda to Daesh, because of its convoluted and irrational interpretation of the primary texts of Islamic faith has generated an equally irrational anti-Muslim bigotry that has put every Muslim outside the militants’ camp under siege.

  • What needs to be reformed or relegated to the theological periphery therefore is this militant upstart and its Wahhabi-Salafist mother.
It is disappointing that the pulpits are not doing enough collectively to confront this challenge.
  • The reasons for their reluctance are also not far to seek ...
The lure of Saudi money and the fear of militants’ reprisal are the most obvious of the reasons.

Even if some progressive minded imams and religious leaders undertake the challenge to reform militant Islam ...

How can one possibly expect them to have significant impact when the NWO continues to behave as it does regardless?

*Dr. Ameer Ali, School of Business and Management, Murdoch University
 
monk said:
  • What needs to be reformed or relegated to the theological periphery therefore is this militant upstart and its Wahhabi-Salafist mother.
It is disappointing that the pulpits are not doing enough collectively to confront this challenge.
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Whose pulpit are we talking about here? If you're talking Christian pulpits, then Christianity has its own house to clean. There's Christian support for that s**t show going on south of the border. If you're talking Islamic pulpits, I'll submit that the conversation continues. There's a substantial "progressive/emerging" wing of Islam. You don't see much more of it than you do the progressive/emerging wing of Christianity, but it does exist, and it will change things.

Unfortunately, the best thing the world could do to slow the spread of "militant Islam" is to contain the more egregious abuses of the American military complex.
 
London Mosque has been very active in promoting a moderate view of Islam and speaking and working against radicalization. They are also very visible and active in the broader community, moreso than some churches.
 
Kimmio said:
USA: Policy of separating children from parents is nothing short of torture

Isn’t what he is doing, an obvious crime?
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Apparently, he's above the law. He's done lots of things, from what amounts to sexual abuse, to colluding with Russia to win the election, to bragging that he could shoot someone in the street in broad daylight, without losing any significant proportion of "his base". He's done more than any other person to convince me that there is something in the water down there (Flint, Michigan, anyone?) rendering the American people dumber than your average post.
 
Kimmio said:
USA: Policy of separating children from parents is nothing short of torture

Isn’t what he is doing, an obvious crime?
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Here is the way I look at it ... Put yourself in the facility where the separated children are being housed. You see children sobbing and crying out for their parents ... the mandate of the facility forbids you to go and comfort the children with hugs or human contact ... do you obey the mandate and blame it on Trump or do you rise up and do the good thing?
 
monk said:
Here is the way I look at it ... Put yourself in the facility where the separated children are being housed. You see children sobbing and crying out for their parents ... the mandate of the facility forbids you to go and comfort the children with hugs or human contact ... do you obey the mandate and blame it on Trump or do you rise up and do the good thing?
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Very artificial use of the word "or". One can think that the Trump administration is idiotic, while still caring for the disadvantaged?
 
monk said:
Here is the way I look at it ... Put yourself in the facility where the separated children are being housed. You see children sobbing and crying out for their parents ... the mandate of the facility forbids you to go and comfort the children with hugs or human contact ... do you obey the mandate and blame it on Trump or do you rise up and do the good thing?
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That’s an irrelevant question because I am not there, nor am I in a position to be there. Neither are you, so I could ask you the exact same question. Were I in any position to, I would show care and concern and comfort for the children...but that doesn’t mean people can’t verbalize their anguish and disgust at this policy, or mean that Trump and his regime are not accountable for this present policy, and for reversing this atrocity. The people who are running the facility are not speaking up. For one thing, I couldn’t work for an agency, from the get-go, tasked with doing what they’re doing. But if all of a sudden ethical policies turned unethical I would probably quit or be fired. I read somewhere but lost the article now, that people opposed to this who can get access to the facility, probably democrat political reps, will likely be trying to get access to the facility and risk arrest if this continues. I will find the article to back this up before you take my word for it that it exists and I read it. I didn’t imagine it.
 
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monk said:
Here is the way I look at it ... Put yourself in the facility where the separated children are being housed. You see children sobbing and crying out for their parents ... the mandate of the facility forbids you to go and comfort the children with hugs or human contact ... do you obey the mandate and blame it on Trump or do you rise up and do the good thing?
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Besides, those kids are not crying for a bunch of strangers to hug them, really. They are crying for their parents.
 
BetteTheRed said:
more than any other person to convince me that there is something in the water down there (Flint, Michigan, anyone?) rendering the American people dumber than your average post.
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And outside of the lol factor (which is there...dumb as a post...) you should b aware of spreading your disgust for 45 to anything else associated with Trump, whether that is those who voted for Him (for whatever reason), to His family members, to those who comment on Him, etc. That's what is meant by the neologism of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" :3

Some people have lost lots of money just by trying 2 explain 45's methods. Just because of this.

You r living in the movie where 45 is a really scary dude. I grok that.

And since u have that belief, it colours how you see the world.

I have provided countless first person accounts of people who have voted for Trump. To try to show that they r as human as you or I. As bigoted and fallible as beautiful and soaring.

Following is a good illustration of this.

Not to change your mind, but to perhaps knock u a bit into mindfulness and to peek into another pov.




Why Democrats Hear a Secret Racist Dog Whistle and Republicans Don't - Dilbert Blog
 
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Hopefully those Americans who r having a big issue with this r willing 2 speak the truth and live with the consequences
b willing 2 get arrested to help these children
 
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