TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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going way back to BettetheRed, I don't see how our complicity in the misdeeds of the U.S. should render us ineligible to note them. To say that is to say that Germans who were critical of the massacre of Jews should not have been = because as Germans they were complicit in it.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Stopping illegal immigration means stopping Mexicans and Muslims. And that's what is called racism.
Nor do I see the virtue of conservative judges.
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Mexicans and Muslims aren't a race?
Mexicans are people that come from Mexico that is made up of more than 1 race last I checked?
Also Muslims aren't a race but are made up of even more races than Mexicans?

Where are you getting this idea of racism in this particular case?
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Stopping illegal immigration means stopping Mexicans and Muslims. And that's what is called racism.
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Of course neither Mexican nor Muslim is a race.

Graeme said:
Nor do I see the virtue of conservative judges.
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Having an increase of conservative judges on the SCOTUS is America's best hope to have Roe v. Wade overturned for one thing. However, more fundamentally, the SCOTUS would return to its proper role of interpreting laws rather than making them.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
As to Kimmio, I've always felt from her posts that she must be a particularly pleasant person.

As for the choice between Trump and Clinton, there is none. American democracy ended a long time ago. The Republicans and the Democrats are both tools of big business. And Canada is well advanced in that path. Bush and Obama have both been murderous in the service of big business, and both have been disasters in foreign affairs. And Clinton has supported their murderous policies every step of the way.
America ran out of choices a long time ago.
We get deluded because the U.S. has a mythical history of itself of goodness and freedom. It's all nonsense. But people believe it, and it's peddled constantly in TV, movies, and popular thought.
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Graeme, what is your opinion of Switzerlands Direct Democracy? It has it's problems too but seems an interesting alternative.

http://direct-democracy.geschichte-schweiz.ch/
 
Pr. Jae said:
It's important to remember when chatting with @Kimmio that her #1 consideration is whether or not something feels right to her. Not whether something is logical, not whether something is based on facts, just where her own personal feelings lead her.
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Let me clarify
My point in bringing that up in regards to Kimmio wasn't to chide her for being human and having certain ideas regarding Trump or Clinton but rather when she went after you.
I gave the example of Scott Adams of what can happen to someone even if they are just trying to explain someone's behaviour...his has lost some business and was concerned for his life.

We've all experienced this in some form here...a great place with no priveliege n ablism...

And so it goes

PS. don't you think a SCOTUS works best if it has both Conservatives and Liberals than just all or most Cons n Liberals?
 
Inannawhimsey said:
Let me clarify
My point in bringing that up in regards to Kimmio wasn't to chide her for being human and having certain ideas regarding Trump or Clinton but rather when she went after you.
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Oh, okay, thanks.

Inannawhimsey said:
don't you think a SCOTUS works best if it has both Conservatives and Liberals than just all or most Cons n Liberals?
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Perhaps, so long as they all seem the Court's role as interpreting the law rather than creating new laws. America needs more conservative judges to balance things more, and Clinton's not going to appoint them.
 
Pr. Jae said:
Not sure what you mean Northwind. I've been exceptionally fair, measured and balanced when it comes to discussing Trump.
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You have not given information to support why you think he's the better candidate. You've dismissed articles presented as being liberal and consequently, biased. I have not seen anything from you other than to say he's better than Hillary. Seems to me you actually agreed that Hillary was the better candidate somewhere else.

So, Jae tell us what skills/attributes Trump has that makes him the better candidate.
 
Northwind said:
You have not given information to support why you think he's the better candidate. You've dismissed articles presented as being liberal and consequently, biased. I have not seen anything from you other than to say he's better than Hillary. Seems to me you actually agreed that Hillary was the better candidate somewhere else.

So, Jae tell us what skills/attributes Trump has that makes him the better candidate.
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Northwind, I could go through all 60 or so pages of this thread and repost that which I've shared in Trump's favor. I won't put myself through that task. If you'd like to, you can go back over all 60 pages and refresh yourself on what I've said.
 
Northwind said:
You have not given information to support why you think he's the better candidate. You've dismissed articles presented as being liberal and consequently, biased. I have not seen anything from you other than to say he's better than Hillary. Seems to me you actually agreed that Hillary was the better candidate somewhere else.

So, Jae tell us what skills/attributes Trump has that makes him the better candidate.
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Didn't you see that post of his where he says he (reluctantly) thinks Clinton is the better candidate now due to a Trump speech where he seemed quite bonkers?
 
@Graeme Decarie the title of this thread is not:
TRUMP - Some people feel ......... How do you think?
Enough with the verifiable facts already ... the people need to know how you FEEL. It's all about the feelings. Well unless of course you are getting your facts from Harvard STUDENTS - like George Bush - as a post graduate of Harvard he was able to go on to be a POTUS! Harvard Students are the best at disclosing verifiable facts - you can count on that!
 
Yeah, but GWB only had a C average. ;)

It was me not @Graeme Decarie who wrote that, anyhow.

But I guess whoever presents facts can be accused of basing their opinions on emotions, regardless. Because we are all piecing together our information from various sources that we trust to be more factual than other sources, then forming our opinion. But, then, I am also basing my opinion directly on what Mr. Trump has said and how he has behaved, in public for everyone to see - and he appears to not have the ability protect himself from his own 'words', nor does he appear to care. Nor does he seem to be concerned about whether they are accurate, or inflammatory. And he couldn't give a hoot what anyone advises him to do. All of his colleagues are scrambling to patch up his gaffes daily - hoping he'll show that he can be more self disciplined - but he just keeps disappointing them with more trumpisms. They just can't persuade him to behave like an adult. It's quite humorous were it not such a sad state of affairs, in reality.
 
...and Trump appears to be a very emotionally driven, and not very logic driven person, himself. However much that applies to me and my words that I make up and my ideas that are incoherent and my sense of reality that is absent and my anxiety that cannot be eased...(which I think is a point which has been exaggerated here on WC2 for troll effect) you can be rest assured I have no desire to be the leader of any country, or even any local municipality, or even any committee. I have enough common sense to know that I am not equipped for political leadership, at all. I wouldn't in a million years want to do it. I ain't that crazy! Some who go into it don't have that self awareness.

It is also a dangerous human trait to be all logic and no emotion, is it not? It just depends how and when each are applied.
 
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Kimmio said:
...and Trump appears to be a very emotionally driven, and not very logic driven person, himself. However much that applies to me and my words that I make up and my ideas that are incoherent and my sense of reality that is absent and my anxiety that cannot be eased...(which I think is a point which has been exaggerated here on WC2 for troll effect) you can be rest assured I have no desire to be the leader of any country, or even any local municipality, or even any committee. I have enough common sense to know that I am not equipped for political leadership, at all. I wouldn't in a million years want to do it. I ain't that crazy! Some who go into it don't have that self awareness.

It is also a dangerous human trait to be all logic and no emotion, is it not? It just depends how and when each are applied.
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Kimmio, you are capable of using facts and logic in forming your opinions that you express here. That's what you do most of the time. As I said previously, there are _rare_ times when it seems you let your emotions take full control.
 
@Graeme Decarie
Is bankrolling part of American reality ... and thus po' common folk (pagans) are eliminated and out there in imaginary sense ... to the bankrolled ... or perhaps just a ghost of a chance of understanding to one loosing soul over the rites of wealth?

This could give rise to Po' Joies (po'Jo, or Pogo in redacted satyr) or the underdogs rising in dissonance ... once understood as Eris and perhaps derived from Ares .. a war going on only in de head parts ... and thus the demand for head when someone feels they're falling ...

However great powers have Ba'aLs to get hem beyond heady stuff ... thus Brahma ... they do that in Calgary too (tous)?
 
Pr. Jae said:
Kimmio, you are capable of using facts and logic in forming your opinions that you express here. That's what you do most of the time. As I said previously, there are _rare_ times when it seems you let your emotions take full control.
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Do you allow intellect only in fitz Jae? That's catty or catharsis ... it'll wash ...
 
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