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Exactly.
They lied about masks at the beginning. Or they are lying now. But either way, you know it is not about truth, it is about politics. And if masks are a good thing- you’d think they should have to meet some standard. Where’s that.

teachers are scared to go to school, and it is government’s fault. They’d like to stay home. But they are still getting paid. There are realities. Lots of people are scared and want to stay home, but have are will lose their homes if they don’t work.

the beginning was stay home 2 weeks, flatten the curve. Success!!!

Time to responsibly get on with life. If you are still too scared and have the means-stay home and wait for your magic vaccine. The rest of us need to take our chances and get things going before this turns into another s#|+hole country. It doesn’t take long.
 
Exactly.
They lied about masks at the beginning. Or they are lying now. But either way, you know it is not about truth, it is about politics. And if masks are a good thing- you’d think they should have to meet some standard. Where’s that.

teachers are scared to go to school, and it is government’s fault. They’d like to stay home. But they are still getting paid. There are realities. Lots of people are scared and want to stay home, but have are will lose their homes if they don’t work.

the beginning was stay home 2 weeks, flatten the curve. Success!!!

Time to responsibly get on with life. If you are still too scared and have the means-stay home and wait for your magic vaccine. The rest of us need to take our chances and get things going before this turns into another s#|+hole country. It doesn’t take long.
They didn’t know as many details at first as they do now. Trump has played and is still playing politics with this more than anyone - manipulating information. Rita hasn’t clued in yet, that half the people she follows are in on it, but at least she tries. You will buy the lies regardless. It’s incredible that you have such slavish devotion to Trump.

Everything is going to change. We are never going back to the way things were. (For the first month or so I though we could but we’re not). That might be for the better in the long run, except for the rich. Things will either get better being different or that’s it for humanity. We’re not long for this world unless we, people, humans, all of us, work to change it. With extra responsibility on those who have much. Rita’s gift economy might not be a terrible idea to work towards. There’s a chance for a big economic overhaul now like never before, after we pass through this painful period, that could be good - if the people on the lower rungs are part of it - not just the autocrats. We don’t know where this is going but it’s never going back to the way it was. And Trump will surely make it worse if he can.

I thought you want the world to fall apart so Jesus can come back. Trump is being very helpful with that. That’s exactly why some adore him, I guess.

I think the all countries debts should be erased, credit done away with, billionaires investments cancelled, wealth redistributed, and the economic dial set to zero. Not likely, but it’s nice to think we can have a better system.

Nobody deserves to be filthy rich anymore than the poorest deserve to be poor. It’s a lie we’ve been living under for a long time. If you want to talk about a rigged game, neoliberal capitalism is it. Private business interests competing - and being partisan - are going to prolong the pandemic, too.
 
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Exactly.
They lied about masks at the beginning. Or they are lying now. But either way, you know it is not about truth, it is about politics. And if masks are a good thing- you’d think they should have to meet some standard. Where’s that.

teachers are scared to go to school, and it is government’s fault. They’d like to stay home. But they are still getting paid. There are realities. Lots of people are scared and want to stay home, but have are will lose their homes if they don’t work.

the beginning was stay home 2 weeks, flatten the curve. Success!!!

Time to responsibly get on with life. If you are still too scared and have the means-stay home and wait for your magic vaccine. The rest of us need to take our chances and get things going before this turns into another s#|+hole country. It doesn’t take long.
They also thought it wasn't airborne at the beginning.....so you're point is? As we learned, we had to change.
 
PG-13, how familiar are you with the scientific method? What you describe as "changing the story", a scientist describes as "adjusting our theories as more data points become available".

This, exactly. Science does not give absolute truth, only the hypothesis that best fits the current observations. When new observations come along that don't fit the hypothesis, we modify the hypothesis and start making observations to test the modifications. Sometimes, a centuries old hypothesis can be superseded by a newer one if the newer explains the observations better (Newtonian gravity giving way to general relativity, for instance).
 
PG-13, how familiar are you with the scientific method? What you describe as "changing the story", a scientist describes as "adjusting our theories as more data points become available".

Oh but it is so much easier to think in black and white. :confused:
 
Like the nine doctors above whose views and experience are suppressed. Fired for not getting in line. Sounds like the scientific method.
Oh, like the way Dr. Bryx and Dr. Fauci were sidelined and slandered by Trump, because their well researched, scientifically derived comments happened to disagree with His (in his eyes) infallible opinion? or because their insistence on speaking of truth, fact and reality seemed (to him) to hurt His precious chance of reelection? Wow, that might be enough to set a man to destroying the Postal Service....
 
There are more important things than making money. Especially for those who have enough money to get through it. Public money given straight to the people is helpful, except in the US it’s going to have to be paid back. The cheques are loans, which is cruel - especially since so many in the US lack healthcare as well. The virus numbers are climbing again and, especially in the US under Trump, they are already reeling from the first wave - still dealing with it - and not prepared for a second one. Distancing and masks is the only way to slow it until a vaccine or cure comes. Most countries and states/ provinces around the world have expanded or lessened the rules flexibly as new data comes in. I’ve been wearing a mask everytime I go into a public space lately, and I take it off on the way home if nobody’s around (I’m usually within 15 minutes of home most days), but keep it on if there are people out and about. If there are any health risks to wearing a mask, none of them are as potentially bad as covid. Having fluid rules is not misleading, it’s following the science as it happens. It’s the responsible way to do it. It may seem primitive but it’s a new virus that behaves in puzzling ways that are not well understood - even in 1918 masks and distancing were public health procedure. There isn’t a better way to save lives until there’s a vaccine or a cure available (hydroxy isn’t it). Too many are figuring that out after they or a loved one gets exruciatingly ill and dies, or ends up with serious heart or lung damage, or on dialysis - attitudes like yours and Trump’s and his loyal supporters, and the conspiracy propaganda you’ve been reading for months, are enabling this. A doctor writing a column is not an epidemiologist. Somebody, some stalwart antimask Trump loyalist (or several) are going to “defect” from their loyalty if this touches their family, I think. The virus is real and is serious and does need to be contained as best as we can. What you want to do isn’t the best you can do.

I am concerned about government overreach - tyrants taking advantage - but I don’t think places requiring masks and less general public gathering, unless it’s a protest, is overreach. As we’ve seen what the virus can do, it is the right thing to have measures in place for public health.
 
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This, exactly. Science does not give absolute truth, only the hypothesis that best fits the current observations. When new observations come along that don't fit the hypothesis, we modify the hypothesis and start making observations to test the modifications. Sometimes, a centuries old hypothesis can be superseded by a newer one if the newer explains the observations better (Newtonian gravity giving way to general relativity, for instance).

Could be an evolving point ... God particle? Poem I'z hole ..
 
All science is institutionalized and seized in the eye's of those despising anything bringing on alien concepts ...

Thus fixed contortions! The best way is to label data and statistics as false Nous ... that's US the people!

A view of tyranny ...
 
Just reflecting and posting this...with a clip of a recent documentary producent by the Atlantic. What do you think about what I had to say then, now? Think guys like this should be lecturing at universities?

 
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