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This is a commendable effort by Trump. It was a lot better than the first try, the other day. I don't know how sincere he is but at least he's trying to look and act sincere, no doubt. If he could conduct himself as POTUS this way everyday, it would be better for everyone, including him. Maybe, hopefully, this was a good exercise for him.
Trump visits Harvey victims in Houston — live updates
Trump visits Harvey victims in Houston — live updates
Interesting man. Fascinating, and brave, project for him to engage in, coming from a worldview and background so far from the alt-right online community he joined undercover. It was totally new. Not something he'd been endoctrinated into over time. His background is very different from, say, Palmer Luckey, or Milo Yannonopilis.
Here's an interview with Theo Wilson where he answers a few more questions:
A black man went undercover online as a white supremacist. This is what he learned.
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His closing comment answers the question:
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Gutfeld: Harvey Coverage 'Has Destroyed [Leftist's] Worldview'President Trump's far from perfect, but he does do some things right.
Again reality is showing who some people really are
Amongst all the wonderful humanity going on in Texas, people helping people, we have sombunall Leftists trying to divide, break down, malign this amazing example of humanity working together. Its both funny and sick.
They shouldn't malign it, if they are. In disasters people seem to come together like no other times. ...and, so, give Trump credit where it's due. It's not often...but in this case, it is. If Donald Trump got good attention for doing the right things, if he did do good things more often me, he'd probably be an alright president, motivated to do more good things. He is motivated by attention. When he is rewarded with attention he doubles down on what he was rewarded for.
However, with regard to the left maligning. They shouldn't, but...People on the right will malign other efforts at bringing humanity together. "One world" are trigger words for OMGBG&LWSJWSWERFUBAR!!
Multicultural and Social Justice are swear words, on the right.
However, with regard to the left maligning. They shouldn't, but...People on the right will malign other efforts at bringing humanity together. "One world" are trigger words for OMGBG&LWSJWSWERFUBAR!!
Multicultural and Social Justice are swear words, on the right.
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I don't like Trump, but I thought he handled his trip to Houston yesterday very well. In fact I thought the first trip was also fine and the attacks on him for it were simply people finding another way to attack Trump.
The first trip was really just a couple of days after the thing started. There was still chaos in the city, people were still trying to find shelter, emergency workers and aid groups were just getting organized. What everybody didn't need at that moment was the President of the United States showing up and throwing everything into even more chaos simply by his presence. And can you imagine the nightmare of trying to travel into the disaster zone with the required level of presidential security. His visit to command centres to speak to those in charge seemed completely appropriate and presidential to me.
By yesterday, things were much more organized on the ground. People were settled - well, as settled as they can be in the circumstances. The response to the hurricane was running much more smoothly. Trump's visit was at the perfect time and he handled it well. Hugs, pictures, talking to people, playing with kids. Absolutely on target.
To be honest - this seems like the sort of thing Trump should be best at - the more ceremonial aspects of the presidency. I honestly don't think he's got very many deeply thought out policy positions. Which is why over the years he's been a Democrat and a Reform Party member and now a Republican, and he's donated to various candidates from different parties. When he gets hung up on policy issues he just sounds foolish - not because I think he's stupid, but because he just really doesn't care that much about policy except in very vague and general terms perhaps, and he doesn't really know the facts or the details and so he ends up compensating for that by just lashing out at everybody he doesn't like at any given moment.
But the ceremonial aspects of the presidency - and these should not be overlooked or dismissed as unimportant - he has the ability to perform well. If he could restrict himself largely to that and leave it to Congress to actually govern (which would actually be a return to the original concept of how the US would be governed) he'd be on much safer ground.
The first trip was really just a couple of days after the thing started. There was still chaos in the city, people were still trying to find shelter, emergency workers and aid groups were just getting organized. What everybody didn't need at that moment was the President of the United States showing up and throwing everything into even more chaos simply by his presence. And can you imagine the nightmare of trying to travel into the disaster zone with the required level of presidential security. His visit to command centres to speak to those in charge seemed completely appropriate and presidential to me.
By yesterday, things were much more organized on the ground. People were settled - well, as settled as they can be in the circumstances. The response to the hurricane was running much more smoothly. Trump's visit was at the perfect time and he handled it well. Hugs, pictures, talking to people, playing with kids. Absolutely on target.
To be honest - this seems like the sort of thing Trump should be best at - the more ceremonial aspects of the presidency. I honestly don't think he's got very many deeply thought out policy positions. Which is why over the years he's been a Democrat and a Reform Party member and now a Republican, and he's donated to various candidates from different parties. When he gets hung up on policy issues he just sounds foolish - not because I think he's stupid, but because he just really doesn't care that much about policy except in very vague and general terms perhaps, and he doesn't really know the facts or the details and so he ends up compensating for that by just lashing out at everybody he doesn't like at any given moment.
But the ceremonial aspects of the presidency - and these should not be overlooked or dismissed as unimportant - he has the ability to perform well. If he could restrict himself largely to that and leave it to Congress to actually govern (which would actually be a return to the original concept of how the US would be governed) he'd be on much safer ground.
Came from the snake in the garden ... some poison is the antidote , some anecdote ... people with good teeth can get a grasp on differences ... some only go one-way! They can't see the butt hocks ...
Wrong story ... that's from the tale of the Step Mother ... MOG on wisdom ... one step at a time ... Dear Meis ... Peter Us Tin oue!
Did anyone catch his joke in the video, at the shelter. He was having some difficulty putting on latex gloves to hand out the lunch boxes - and he said, with a quick smirk, "my hands are too big". Lol.
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Trump doesn't matter. He isn't running the country.
I've seen no evidence he's a man of any intelligence - though he does have a flair for attracting the ignorant and hating. Much like Hitler.
The U.S. is now much like nazi Germany was about 1944 as Hitler maintained his admirers, but had long lost any sense of what was really happening.
And his religious values, if any, are blasphemous or profoundly ignorant.
But he doesn't matter. American society is crashing. Trump has no effect on that. In fact, it's not clear that he has any effect on anything.
I've seen no evidence he's a man of any intelligence - though he does have a flair for attracting the ignorant and hating. Much like Hitler.
The U.S. is now much like nazi Germany was about 1944 as Hitler maintained his admirers, but had long lost any sense of what was really happening.
And his religious values, if any, are blasphemous or profoundly ignorant.
But he doesn't matter. American society is crashing. Trump has no effect on that. In fact, it's not clear that he has any effect on anything.
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This article is pure drivel. It uses the words fascist and nazi without understanding the meaning of either of them. And then it blends with the equally inaccurate use of the world 'left'.
Hitler and Mussolini and fascism and naziism had nothing to with left in any meaning of that word. Despite the title of National Socialist Party, there was nothing whatever ever of socialism in Hitler's policies. In fact, it was because Hitler and Mussolini opposed socialism of any sort - and the left in any form - that western capitalists supported the two of them for so long.
If you want to see real fascism and naziism today, they are in the Democrat and Republican parties - neither of which is left of anything. (The one exception is Bernie Sanders. and he's quite gently to the left.)
Today's Hitlers are Bush and Clinton. Today''s Mussolini is Trump.
We seem to be busting loose with catchwords that have emotional impact - but no meaning whatever.
Hitler and Mussolini and fascism and naziism had nothing to with left in any meaning of that word. Despite the title of National Socialist Party, there was nothing whatever ever of socialism in Hitler's policies. In fact, it was because Hitler and Mussolini opposed socialism of any sort - and the left in any form - that western capitalists supported the two of them for so long.
If you want to see real fascism and naziism today, they are in the Democrat and Republican parties - neither of which is left of anything. (The one exception is Bernie Sanders. and he's quite gently to the left.)
Today's Hitlers are Bush and Clinton. Today''s Mussolini is Trump.
We seem to be busting loose with catchwords that have emotional impact - but no meaning whatever.
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More on the alt-right battle regarding free speech (and implicit reference to the Overton Window, at least a similar concept, i.e. on how fringe ideas get pushed toward the centre toward acceptability to poplarity, to policy. (Link about it in other thread).
The ‘free speech debate’ is nothing of the sort, whatever the far right says | Ellie Mae O’Hagan
The ‘free speech debate’ is nothing of the sort, whatever the far right says | Ellie Mae O’Hagan
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On Antifa shenaniganz
We need not attribute actual conscious malice to them
Their agitation could also be due to cognitive dissonance
And then their actions are supported through groupthink and the various mechanisms we are hier to that mold our very thoughts to support whatever Group we happen to be in...
We are very powerful creatures able to create such amazing concepts as "countries" (meaningless bits of dirt that we can defend with our lives and get upset when someone insults that bit of dirt), "uglyness", "mercy", "justice" and so forth...
There this video which is a very good relatively recent example of cognitive dissonance. The US show Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher.
Watch Ben Affleck show cognitive dissonance.
In this case he doesn't get violent, but he does get very irrational, angry, shaky, not on topic, etc.
Also look up Breaching Experiments, where people test violation of social norms (the collection of which a culture essentially is...). I remember a simple one where the researchers would pick up trash on a university ground when students were around and after someone else would ask how they felt. Some were angered by the act or felt uncomfortable. Because a social norm was the janitors were the people who did that.
The effects of these violations can include but aren't limited to anger, frustration, fight or flight response, violence, compromised immune systems, sweating...
Blasphemy Laws arose to protect social norms very strongly...and you see what happens when even nonsacred things get violated...when the idea or item or whatnot is Sacred, to even think aboot the possibility of the thing could be a violation, a Taboo. Look at how sombunall people react when they see a picture of Mohammad; they can riot and even kill.
We're such powerful creatures.
LA DI DAH!!
Ps herez an old experiment showing how our very thoughts and feelings and notions on what is true can change even by something completely trivial
We need not attribute actual conscious malice to them
Their agitation could also be due to cognitive dissonance
And then their actions are supported through groupthink and the various mechanisms we are hier to that mold our very thoughts to support whatever Group we happen to be in...
We are very powerful creatures able to create such amazing concepts as "countries" (meaningless bits of dirt that we can defend with our lives and get upset when someone insults that bit of dirt), "uglyness", "mercy", "justice" and so forth...
There this video which is a very good relatively recent example of cognitive dissonance. The US show Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher.
Watch Ben Affleck show cognitive dissonance.
Also look up Breaching Experiments, where people test violation of social norms (the collection of which a culture essentially is...). I remember a simple one where the researchers would pick up trash on a university ground when students were around and after someone else would ask how they felt. Some were angered by the act or felt uncomfortable. Because a social norm was the janitors were the people who did that.
The effects of these violations can include but aren't limited to anger, frustration, fight or flight response, violence, compromised immune systems, sweating...
Blasphemy Laws arose to protect social norms very strongly...and you see what happens when even nonsacred things get violated...when the idea or item or whatnot is Sacred, to even think aboot the possibility of the thing could be a violation, a Taboo. Look at how sombunall people react when they see a picture of Mohammad; they can riot and even kill.
We're such powerful creatures.
LA DI DAH!!
Ps herez an old experiment showing how our very thoughts and feelings and notions on what is true can change even by something completely trivial