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@ChemGal , I spent a fair bit of time with Dad when he was in crisis. Slept in the hospital room even. My sister came & helped. My brother took shifts. Staff was great. Volunteers were great. "Walking" volunteers were great. They didn't know him. I did. I could interpret, see what was normal, provide continuity.
I do think the family being active is a good thing, and if you are able, is something you do.

As he got healthier, then I started to withdraw more.
I understand it's good for family to be around. I don't understand the lack of care if they can't be there constantly though. My Mom feels like she needs to be there , awake all night to ensure care. Also it seems like what they require consent for vs what they will force on people is all about the convenience to the staff, and doesn't appear to be about patient care.
 
A lazy Sunday for me today - and I'm glad to see the sky is clear blue & the sun is shining. Did some baking this morning, read a bit, posted some stuff on freecycle which got picked up quickly (yay!), getting menu organized for my euchre group on Friday - holiday hosting is fun. Just waiting for a call from my dtr.
Making something new for dinner but altering the recipe (from Whole Bowls recipe book) is throwing my mate off! - skip the chick peas, use sauteed shrimp; leave out the raisins - not great with shrimp IMO; use less lemon flesh in the quinoa; use sour cream instead of yogurt in the tahini dressing - because we had some & it needs using. So it will be experimental ... LOL

This sounds a lot like my cooking. Find a likely recipe and gaily tweak to suit our tastes and what is in the house for ingredients. I have noticed that many newer recipes call for more exotic ingredients than those available in local stores. If that weird ingredient is a leafy veg I tend to substitute with cabbage. I guess I'm not a perfectionist about food (or much else actually).
 
I'm just at a loss by what is expected by family members - way more than a full time job's worth of hours being spent there. An aunt is taking some 'shifts' as well, but she also has her job.

Oh boy - I can really relate to these words. When our son was in ICU and for some time after we really thought he needed more care than he was getting. I stayed at the hospital all week - sleeping in a waiting room or at his bedside. I have no training but I could tell when he needed suctioning - how come I had to find someone to do it? Hubby came at weekends and gave me a break. A few times another adult kid took over for a day or two, which was wonderful. Everyone but me had a job which complicated matters. One kid lived a long way away too which was even more difficult to deal with. We thought it would get easier when he came out of the coma but it didn't for many weeks.
 
I understand it's good for family to be around. I don't understand the lack of care if they can't be there constantly though. My Mom feels like she needs to be there , awake all night to ensure care. Also it seems like what they require consent for vs what they will force on people is all about the convenience to the staff, and doesn't appear to be about patient care.
Generally, hospital staff cannot force anything on people if they are competent to make decisions. That competency has to be determined by the doctor. Patients have the right to refuse medications, treatments, food. They only loose this right when they are a danger to themselves or others- and again are assessed as being incapable to make those decisions ( temporarily or permanently). Family comes in very handy because they often are better able to convince a relative that staff that is unknown to the patient.
 
I actually think the competency question is a bit of a boondoggle.
I don’t know how it is in mental health, but since NS got a new law a year ago, it has become a serious matter in our hospital.
And as an OT, our regulatory body expects us to treat people only with consent.
 
I don’t know how it is in mental health, but since NS got a new law a year ago, it has become a serious matter in our hospital.
And as an OT, our regulatory body expects us to treat people only with consent.
Yes, it is the same in this province. The grey area, as I see it, concerns the whole issue of capacity to give consent. With the elderly who are declining cognitively it becomes extremely subjective.
 
Yes, it is the same in this province. The grey area, as I see it, concerns the whole issue of capacity to give consent. With the elderly who are declining cognitively it becomes extremely subjective.

And it can vary wildly from one hour to the next. If my Mom acquired a kidney infection, she'd often go from extremely alert ("let me tell you who in this home is doo-lally, dear Bette") to almost catatonic fairly quickly.
 
Generally, hospital staff cannot force anything on people if they are competent to make decisions. That competency has to be determined by the doctor. Patients have the right to refuse medications, treatments, food. They only loose this right when they are a danger to themselves or others- and again are assessed as being incapable to make those decisions ( temporarily or permanently). Family comes in very handy because they often are better able to convince a relative that staff that is unknown to the patient.
That was not my experience. I had a good long conversation with my surgeon about no solumedrol was agreed to. Denied it when a nurse tried to give it (without actually stating what it was, I asked). Then the anesthesiologist started the drip behind my back without saying a word to me - that felt quite forced on me. I was also physically held down when I was going under and they had a mask on me. I tried fighting first and then not fighting but calmly signalling, either way both people wouldn't let go. I hadn't been given my mouthwash yet my hematologist ordered which I was trying to communicate - I really feel like the put me out without consent.
So if they can do crap like that to me when I am fully coherent although in a vulnerable position surely they can be a little more encouraging with someone who is psychotic (which was also due to the meds they gave).
 
And it can vary wildly from one hour to the next. If my Mom acquired a kidney infection, she'd often go from extremely alert ("let me tell you who in this home is doo-lally, dear Bette") to almost catatonic fairly quickly.
That could be a sign of delirium, caused by infection, which is reversible. It can last up to 6 months! Difficult to judge is when delirium happens on top of dementia and one is waiting for it to clear, but then it turns out the dementia has gotten worse.
 
And it can vary wildly from one hour to the next. If my Mom acquired a kidney infection, she'd often go from extremely alert ("let me tell you who in this home is doo-lally, dear Bette") to almost catatonic fairly quickly.

That's true .... renal salts are indicative of something ... Piscine Opts in ancient medicine where one wasn't to look into the unclean ... the chambered potus as nautilus?

Thus body and bodine was untouchable ... matter of sectarian nature ... where souls hide out ... w/i essence?
 
That could be a sign of delirium, caused by infection, which is reversible. It can last up to 6 months! Difficult to judge is when delirium happens on top of dementia and one is waiting for it to clear, but then it turns out the dementia has gotten worse.
Exactly. And how do hospital staff decide if someone in this situation has capacity or not? In my experience with elderly parents in hospital it is an inconsistent thing. The cynical part of me says if the patient consents to what staff want, they don't worry much about the capacity question.
 
Exactly. And how do hospital staff decide if someone in this situation has capacity or not? In my experience with elderly parents in hospital it is an inconsistent thing. The cynical part of me says if the patient consents to what staff want, they don't worry much about the capacity question.

Thus the incapacitated by greater desires ... internalized conflict ... more to question in the next stage ...
 
The room needs a bit of fluffing up. And airing out.
Throwing open the windows to let in fresh air
Excuse the briskness
 
Ah - just what I needed to get me moving. Much to get done today because the next two days are completely booked. Rehab at the local hospital at 10. Grandboys Christmas play at his school 40 minutes away at 1 pm. Event in the city a bit over three hours away at 7pm. Medical appointment in the same city at 10.30 the next morning. Event locally at 7pm following the over three hour drive back. Not much space for getting into mischief I guess.
 
Sounds like there will be considerable time in the car in the next two days! What do you listen to on these long trips that your location necessitates?

Thanks for tidying up, Pinga, and freshening the place up. Air does get stale in the winter, doesn't it?

Went to my retirees Christmas lunch today, caught up with old friends, both fellow retirees, and after lunch, a couple of "still prisoners", who are very unhappy campers. Definitely made the right decision to retire early.
 
When we are on the highway we usually listen to the same stuff as when we are home - CBC radio!. I expect hubby has one or two of his ghastly country and western nose singing cowboy cd's somewhere within his reach too. If he puts something like that on for background sound (it isn't music in my opinion) I tend to tune out and either meditate or fall asleep.
 
Ahh ... loving the freshness of the air - thanks pinga! It's calling to mind that hymn about feeling the winds of God ... listen along & enjoy these images :)
 
Today I was out for Xmas lunch with 'my team' - so good to see them all & hard to believe it's about 6 months since I retired. Tomorrow they are interviewing another candidate ... fingers crossed for a good fit.

On the way home, I stopped by the church to write a few Amnesty International letters. Today is Write for Rights (W4R) Day - also International Human Rights Day I think. So a couple at our church organized this drop in event. It's the first time I've done any such letters. This year the W4R focus is on women - I wrote letters to several women activitists, and to their governments as well as the commissioners from their countries who are here in Canada. It was interesting & something I will do again.
 
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