Room For All

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Register Log in
You know, if I was actually on a jury so I had something to do, I would mind it less. But sitting around for hours to wait for them to sort things out and get their dozen is not exactly a great use of time. There must be a more efficient way to run this system in the 21st century.
 
I was called once many years ago. I re]plied exp;aining the difficulties I had with attending. The Court was an hours drive away. I had four kids whon would need expensive babysitting. Never heard from them again.
 
Have been called twice and served once.

Sitting on the jury was both educational and stressful. The trial lasted a couple of months and I was blessed to have my salary paid by my employer.

The second time I requested to be excused based on my age. Once was enough.
 
Newton said that people believed what they know ...

You know that Trump knows that he is the best too ... and he is the top justice ... he favors the best! Trump, Russia and China are about to judge Ukraine ... and you know the outcome will be the people's fault ... and guess who will agree with the conventional God? It could never be the fault of the best.

Sometimes such opinions bother me ... but it never bothers the best believers ...
 
I was called to jury duty but was excused when I told the judge I needed to attend my husband’s oncology appointments with him. They thought the trial would last more than a week which conflicted with appointments.
 
paradox3 said:
Have been called twice and served once.

Sitting on the jury was both educational and stressful. The trial lasted a couple of months and I was blessed to have my salary paid by my employer.

The second time I requested to be excused based on my age. Once was enough.
Click to expand...
A couple of months in jury duty is significant.
You more than did your civic duty.
 
Good morning! Tuesday is dawning, a new day. Memories of jury duty calls, thinking of non-binary people (likely each of us knows someone who is non-binary), plus whatever may arise today, such as 76% of Albertans voting to remain in Canada, will shape our conversations around the Coffee Cart today. Here we chat, support, connect, and try to get along; over tea, coffee, and what the Wonderbaker provides for us. Today, the WB has produced some pies for autumn-- apple, pumpkin, and pecan.
The tea water is boiling, coffee is freshbrewed, and pies are warm and ready to serve. All is ready, everyone is welcome. Come in and join the fun!

C(_)/ c\_/ c(_) c[_]
 
Redbaron said:
Good morning! Tuesday is dawning, a new day. Memories of jury duty calls, thinking of non-binary people (likely each of us knows someone who is non-binary), plus whatever may arise today, such as 76% of Albertans voting to remain in Canada, will shape our conversations around the Coffee Cart today. Here we chat, support, connect, and try to get along; over tea, coffee, and what the Wonderbaker provides for us. Today, the WB has produced some pies for autumn-- apple, pumpkin, and pecan.
The tea water is boiling, coffee is freshbrewed, and pies are warm and ready to serve. All is ready, everyone is welcome. Come in and join the fun!

C(_)/ c\_/ c(_) c[_]
Click to expand...
Don't know anyone who's non-binary. Also, hooray, pie - nature's most perfect food
 
Isn't binary like 2-way, or may be one free and the other closed up and watching out for those on the other side of the ring-sphere?

John Ralston Saul wrote about it in Equilibrium ... on balancing the creature ... the closed one may feel restricted by all factors, etc. The options are something else ... for labelling the homme body ... waiting for the one to come back ... or optionally another activity ...
 
Jaebius said:
Don't know anyone who I know is non-binary.
Click to expand...
Would be more accurate. Especially in a place like Korea, coming out as a gender identity other than cis-binary is still a risky proposition. I met a non-binary person on my last visit to the UU fellowship here but that's a welcoming, very supportive environment.
 
Jaebius said:
Don't know anyone who's non-binary.
Click to expand...
Oh, you absolutely do. They've just not felt comfortable being authentic to themselves at the time, or in the company in which they commonly found themselves.

My daughter is 19 and knows multiple. In high school she contributed to an atmosphere that allowed those on the whole LGBTQ+ spectrum to be themselves. Some even took advantage. Some stayed hidden in plain sight in case word got back to their parents. But she lent clothing, walked close to shield from insults, heckled back effectively, and even caught a punch meant for a friend.

I did none of that. I didn't know anyone in that group in high school, I thought. But of course I did. Statistically, it's impossible that I did not, plus at least one came out later, and I kept track of ao few classmates. But I also did nothing to make the atmosphere more accepting. I helped the generally bullied, which is more than most, but, like, nobody came out in my time. At least I don't think I contributed to the atmosphere that kept them in the closet. But I was not as awesome as my daughter is. Not even close.

Now I'm very cognizant of things I say that could contribute toward people feeling they have to pretend to be something they are not around me. I am vocal about opposing those who would intimidate others or make them feel they should not be or act in a way that is not cisgendered. I probably enjoy mocking them too much, but in my defense, it's a lot of fun.
 
Mendalla said:
Would be more accurate. Especially in a place like Korea, coming out as a gender identity other than cis-binary is still a risky proposition. I met a non-binary person on my last visit to the UU fellowship here but that's a welcoming, very supportive environment.
Click to expand...
Will stick with my original statement, thanks
 
chansen said:
Oh, you absolutely do. They've just not felt comfortable being authentic to themselves at the time, or in the company in which they commonly found themselves.

My daughter is 19 and knows multiple. In high school she contributed to an atmosphere that allowed those on the whole LGBTQ+ spectrum to be themselves. Some even took advantage. Some stayed hidden in plain sight in case word got back to their parents. But she lent clothing, walked close to shield from insults, heckled back effectively, and even caught a punch meant for a friend.

I did none of that. I didn't know anyone in that group in high school, I thought. But of course I did. Statistically, it's impossible that I did not, plus at least one came out later, and I kept track of ao few classmates. But I also did nothing to make the atmosphere more accepting. I helped the generally bullied, which is more than most, but, like, nobody came out in my time. At least I don't think I contributed to the atmosphere that kept them in the closet. But I was not as awesome as my daughter is. Not even close.

Now I'm very cognizant of things I say that could contribute toward people feeling they have to pretend to be something they are not around me. I am vocal about opposing those who would intimidate others or make them feel they should not be or act in a way that is not cisgendered. I probably enjoy mocking them too much, but in my defense, it's a lot of fun.
Click to expand...
No, I don't. I really don't
 
Jaebius said:
No, I don't. I really don't
Click to expand...
Someone in your school was nonbinary. Someone in your seminary was nonbinary. Someone you knew in a church in the GTA was nonbinary. Someone you taught in South Korea was nonbinary. I would wager at least three are true, but at least two. You'd be a complete statistical anomaly if one were true.

They just never felt comfortable enough to tell you. They confide in my daughter, but they've never confided in you. And I wonder why that would have been?

Imagine how much more helpful and comforting my 19-year-old daughter is than both of us in this area. I work in construction. You work with people. And my daughter runs circles around you for something like this.
 
@Jaebius, just curious, how many gay people (of any gender) do you know? Bisexual people? If it is also 0, then chansen is right on the money. You don't know them because you move in circles where they would not be out and you behave in ways that would likely make them unlikely to confide in you.
 
It's even the confidence with which he says it.

If I didn't know OF anyone who was nonbinary, I might say that no one I know has YET TOLD ME they are nonbinary. To flat out say you know no nonbinary people is itself exclusionary. It makes the first person who might be looking to confide in someone, look elsewhere. It could make them think they are freaks or somehow wrong.

And again, this could also be Jae having one over on us, and I took the bait this time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top