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Ok, so is anyone else frustrated by the people who think that the brazil variant came here by people flying from brazil?

I really wish variants had numbers as names rather than country names
 
JayneWonders said:
Ok, so is anyone else frustrated by the people who think that the brazil variant came here by people flying from brazil?

I really wish variants had numbers as names rather than country names
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Yeah, they need a good name system. P1 isn't so bad. B.1.1.17 doesn't roll off the tongue though.
 
JayneWonders said:
I really wish variants had numbers as names rather than country names
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I personally have been trying to use the numbers (per Chemgal's post) as much as possible. After all, regardless of where a variant starts, sooner or later it, or another variant with a similar mutation, is probably going to turn up elsewhere.
 
JayneWonders said:
Ok, so is anyone else frustrated by the people who think that the brazil variant came here by people flying from brazil?

I really wish variants had numbers as names rather than country names
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I don't know....I don't like the numbers either
Covidmutation 1, 2 and 3 would be easier on my brain at this stage in my life, LOL.
 
Mendalla said:
I personally have been trying to use the numbers (per Chemgal's post) as much as possible. After all, regardless of where a variant starts, sooner or later it, or another variant with a similar mutation, is probably going to turn up elsewhere.
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Even though a defining feature from each variant would be nice as a shortened speaking term. I have never even seen the letters/numbers defined (the nomenclature of virology genetics is not something I'm familiar with, in general genetically the stuff I worked on as for specific proteins so I wasn't covering things like the nuances of how genetic tests are even numbered). With the RNA we're just taking about 4 different letters that change. With the proteins I feel like it's easier to have an idea of what has actually changed.
ie pulling from the CDC some information:

The B.1.1.7 variant carries a mutation in the S protein (N501Y) that affects the conformation of receptor-binding domain. This variant has 13 other B.1.1.7 lineage-defining mutations (Table), several of which are in the S protein, including a deletion at positions 69 and 70 (del69–70) that evolved spontaneously in other SARS-CoV-2 variants and is hypothesized to increase transmissibility (2,7). The deletion at positions 69 and 70 causes S-gene target failure (SGTF) in at least one RT-PCR–based diagnostic assay (i.e., with the ThermoFisher TaqPath COVID-19 assay, the B.1.1.7 variant and other variants with the del69–70 produce a negative result for S-gene target and a positive result for the other two targets); SGTF has served as a proxy in the United Kingdom for identifying B.1.1.7 cases (1).

So the asparagine (N in amine acid code) in position 501 of the S protein has been replaced with a tyrosine (y in amino acid code). May have a short term name of spike 501 tyrosine or even spike 501 'tie' using the first syllable of the amino acid. I realize this name isn't super short, but I feel like it's a more relatable verbal term than B. 1.1.7

With multiple mutations, what we use as the definition feature is likely to occur in the other variants, but I'm just suggesting these as nicknames, so a unique mutation doesn't have to be selected for a nickname, as long as the next variant uses a different feature for the nickname.

Not sure what the virology genetists would say, but probably better than calling it the UK variant.
 
Waterfall said:
I don't know....I don't like the numbers either
Covidmutation 1, 2 and 3 would be easier on my brain at this stage in my life, LOL.
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I agree that even that would be a better naming system than what is being used. Especially orally, written it isn't as bad but I have to double check the ones not referred to as much. And even with the most common one I keep through a 17 in thanks to my double vision (eye eczema).
 
ChemGal said:
Even though a defining feature from each variant would be nice as a shortened speaking term. I have never even seen the letters/numbers defined (the nomenclature of virology genetics is not something I'm familiar with, in general genetically the stuff I worked on as for specific proteins so I wasn't covering things like the nuances of how genetic tests are even numbered). With the RNA we're just taking about 4 different letters that change. With the proteins I feel like it's easier to have an idea of what has actually changed.
ie pulling from the CDC some information:

The B.1.1.7 variant carries a mutation in the S protein (N501Y) that affects the conformation of receptor-binding domain. This variant has 13 other B.1.1.7 lineage-defining mutations (Table), several of which are in the S protein, including a deletion at positions 69 and 70 (del69–70) that evolved spontaneously in other SARS-CoV-2 variants and is hypothesized to increase transmissibility (2,7). The deletion at positions 69 and 70 causes S-gene target failure (SGTF) in at least one RT-PCR–based diagnostic assay (i.e., with the ThermoFisher TaqPath COVID-19 assay, the B.1.1.7 variant and other variants with the del69–70 produce a negative result for S-gene target and a positive result for the other two targets); SGTF has served as a proxy in the United Kingdom for identifying B.1.1.7 cases (1).

So the asparagine (N in amine acid code) in position 501 of the S protein has been replaced with a tyrosine (y in amino acid code). May have a short term name of spike 501 tyrosine or even spike 501 'tie' using the first syllable of the amino acid. I realize this name isn't super short, but I feel like it's a more relatable verbal term than B. 1.1.7

With multiple mutations, what we use as the definition feature is likely to occur in the other variants, but I'm just suggesting these as nicknames, so a unique mutation doesn't have to be selected for a nickname, as long as the next variant uses a different feature for the nickname.

Not sure what the virology genetists would say, but probably better than calling it the UK variant.
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And it's phylogeny based, so yeah, difficult to keep up with that naming system.
www.nature.com

Confusion reigns over naming of new COVID variants

“The nomenclature is a bloody mess.”
www.nature.com www.nature.com
 
So, NS is going into self-isolation. Too many people going in and out and I suppose people have not been isolating properly, causing community clusters.
Bad luck for my friend in the US who had planned to come here next week in preparation for moving here.
Second time she has to cancel her plans, first time she had tested positive at the border.
I am hoping they are getting a handle on it before it takes off and becomes untraceable. For me, again less going out ( the university town is next door and we had two exposure sites there last week). Nova Scotians have been lucky so far and might have been slacking because of that.
 
This is all very sad to me and others I'm sure. What's it going to take for us to stop from infecting others? Do our children have to die in large numbers? It's starting now isn't it?
I can't help thinking of the the nursery rhyme, the Pied Piper of Hamlin. If we don't pay the price now, will we lose our families?
 
So while it is catty to respond as the article does, in my opinion, it isn’t as if everyone who works for home had all the facilities, hook ups, equipment they needed before hand. And certainly not the security that the premise would need

he Has made lots of mistakes. Prehabs not as many as Trudeau but he will wear them when the next election comes because he isn’t a charismatic character. For the most part he comes across as a buffoon

trudeau won’t wear it. He thinks they have done a good job. But hey, now we are maybe looking into stopping the two flights a day from India to Toronto. You think? Gosh. What a brilliant idea
 
So, I am unhappy with those calling for ford's resignation just as I am unhappy with those calling for trudeau's.

Kinda tired of the calls re incompetence

This is not an easy time to be in leadership.

Buckle down and work together
 
The potential of needing to isolate isn't a new thing. Setting up with the proper security measures in place can be a bit difficult, That should already have been arranged.
Any premier should be capable of sending/receiving emails with attachments, joining a video call, etc. That's part of the job.
 
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