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Ritafee said:
I am not sure what a pomelo is ... but why would you not buy local garlic or grow your own ...

Or do you consider your local store as local purchases.

Or do think cheap is protected better without 'the reported virus'?

If it was the white China Cheap, did they bleach the life and pungency out of it to make it white?

I don't know what they have done with your cheap garlic since 'the virus' but prior to that ...

“In China, chemicals banned in Canada? are still being used to grow garlic?

Chinese garlic is gamma irradiated to prevent sprouting and is also sprayed with Maleic Hydrazide to extend shelf life?

All imported garlic is fumigated with Methyl Bromide by AQIS on arrival in other countries.

It might look okay and it’s cheap enough but the next Chinese garlic you purchase might have actually been picked last year. (134213/Pixabay)

Garlic from China might be cheaper, but is it worth it?
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Didn’t say I bought the garlic, did I? In fact I have heard of someone who has visited a site in China that was growing that cheap garlic and said that it was under the most disgusting conditions.
I just mentioned this, because I think that the fear might be spreading around here and people might not be buying the things from China anymore, making the stores put it on sale so they can get rid of it. I might be wrong. I just can‘t remember ever seeing a pomelo that cheap.
 
They quarantined an entire city - an entire province - because they could. The handling of this is "off". It warrants suspicion. Not only that but racism is on the rise everywhere.

People buy Chinese produce daily in huge quantities in most major cities and not one instance of this virus has been linked to Chinese goods in anyone...that's paranoia. Not trusting their government's behaviour - or any authoritarian behaviour of governments - surrounding this virus, including the response, is not paranoia.
 
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Phone Maker Foxconn Warns Staff to Keep Away From Shenzhen Base
Bloomberg News
February 7, 2020, 4:34 AM CST

  • Hon Hai asks workers to await further notice on when to return
  • The iPhone maker is grappling with unprecedented disruption
Think anyone will rethink buying an Iphone?
 
Together, both temperature scanners and face masks are a form of “health theater” — while moderately effective, they’re also performative. They signal to the bureaucratic bosses and other citizens that “we’re doing our best to stop the coronavirus.”

And yet, life goes on.

Despite empty streets, face mask-wearing and thermometer-waving citizenry, and closed businesses, life goes on. Families are still enjoying Chinese New Year together at home, flying kites in the park, shopping at Walmart, and eating at McDonald’s. My parents, Harry, and I made dumplings, duck and vegetables; watched “Parasite” (an excellent movie) together at home; and chatted about our lives and how our mom’s house renovation was coming along.

Everybody’s wearing masks by the hot pot meats aisle at Shenzhen’s Walmart.
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This is not to minimize the effect of the coronavirus. It literally is the only news in China right now. The economic impact has been immense, with a tourist season cut short. Wuhan is bearing the worst of it, with thousands of cases, many deaths, and more likely to come.

Overall, though, I came away from my time in Shenzhen feeling reassured that China’s got the disease under control. Everywhere in China other than Wuhan, I feel like you’re safer from not just the new coronavirus, but any infectious disease, than you would be even in the U.S. thanks to the precautions being taken right now. I’d recommend against visiting China today. But if you’re already here, I’d recommend an abundance of caution. Wash your hands, wear a mask, and avoid high-risk areas. But know that you’re not walking into a zombie apocalypse (as the Express would like you to believe), and that you’re seeing China like we’ve never seen before.

We visited Lianhuashan, the Central Park of Shenzhen, with a hilltop plaza overlooking the city and a large field for flying kites. The field, which normally would be chock-full of families, was sparse and less than a quarter full. Roads were so free of traffic that when we asked a seafood restaurant’s staff where to park, they told us to just park on the sides of the two-lane boulevard — a clear violation of normal traffic rules. And for good reason, too! We didn’t see a single car go down that street the whole 10 minutes we were outside.


Peter Xu and his brother, Harry Yu, are the co-founders of Wanderlog, a document for planning travel itineraries. They were born and raised in China until age 7, moved to Canada, and now live together in San Francisco.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
That's nice. It's still under authoritarian
lockdown.
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Apple and Foxconn are the authorities there ...

Among the first corporations to try and quantify the epidemic’s impact. Hon Hai slashed its 2020 outlook this week, anticipating disruptions to Apple’s carefully calibrated production chain as well as weaker consumer demand and overall economic growth. As China’s largest private employer and a key partner to many of the world’s most recognizable consumer brands, Foxconn has become a high-profile symbol of how the outbreak could disrupt Chinese manufacturing and hence the world’s supply of made-in-China electronics.
 
Different problems are strange things when approached from dogmatic indoctrination!

Forces one out of the Boches ... into the abstract ... a mystery!
 
How to say you don't know in a world filled with folk that declare they completely understand eternal things ... generate a myth or a story ... then declare that the alternate is wrong. This can go both ways once people get instituted where they are at.

Tis an awful spot of discomfort when getting squeezed on both ends ... thus thought and bottom line sensations depart ... like continents ... thus in continents ... may be edited for inclaire -Ite! Tis all mystery tome ...

Hoo's AID that? They too are insecure ... thus the rough hard spots ... gritty! Sans ... tis beyond us ... like the great sea of misunderstood idealism! Uncertain gods ... who lie about hedgings and funds ... put Moni on it ... nebuli?
 
kimmio, my understanding of what you are writing is that you think there is some big conspiracy going on because China has built a hospital and people are being quarantined? And you, great medical mind that you are, feel it isn’t necessary? Or it is sinister?

honestly, get a grip

a brand new virus, that is a lot like a previous new virus, SARS, is spreading fast. People are dying and medical personnel are rapidly trying to handle it

because it is airborn, it spreads fast and easily. There is some suggeston from certain cases that even people with out symptoms can shed the virus and infect others

there is also suggeston that many people have a mild case and are unaware they are spreading the virus. but others who contact it could become much sicker

WHO is monitoring closely. The mass quarantine is unprecidented and could not have happened in a more open society for sure. Time will tell if it works

as to the hospital? Emergency hospitals are often built. Whenever a disaster such as earth quakes and such occur. Or in war zones. And China has the Ability to just do it without consultation the hospital is mostly a prefab structure. like building with LEGO. Astonishing and I am sure armies will take note for new ideas building field hospitals

the need to keep a new virus for spreading is important. Ships are quarrantined to try to control the spread. sure you could ask people to quarantine themselves at home voluntarily but we know that wouldn’t work. Imagine you return from vacation, no more vacation days, no sick pay. Sure just take three more weeks off work and handle it. No problem with no pay cheque

just don’t go grocery shopping. Just don’t go for a walk with your dog. School? No. Big deal. Catch up later. You know that would not fly.

will this be a deadly virus that kills thousands ? Hopefully not. so far it has killed more than SARS and it is wrecking havoc on the economic situation
 
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Lastpointe said:
a brand new virus, that is a lot like a previous new virus, SARS, is spreading fast. People are dying and medical personnel are rapidly trying to handle it
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Global epidemics solely based on germ-pronouncements, without environmental investigations = 'Brand New Virus'?

Industry and Business Venture Operations to Control Populations = 'Brand New Virus' ?

Overtly contaminated water supplies, open sewage, hunger, starvation, poverty, toxic chemicals, etc. = 'Brand New Virus'?

Operations launched to control populations and force them to take vaccines = 'Brand New Virus'?

Virus Epidemics are very complex, and only the well-trained and sophisticated professionals can assess them = 'Brand New Virus'?

These pros know what they’re doing and we must reject 'THE SIMPLE' = 'Brand New Virus'?

“But…but…but this situation in China is NEW and UNPRECEDENTED (lock-downs and quarantines) = 'Brand New Virus'?

Pollution + Age Old Pneumonia + Epidemic Outbreak + World Theater Premier of Quarantine = 'Brand New Virus'?

The number of people dying in Chinese cities, suddenly escalating at a furious pace is really true = 'Brand New Virus'?

The environment, the production of far more polluted air, or the presence of a poisonous chemicals = 'Brand New Virus?

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In the current “coronavirus epidemic,” the one condition that has been emphasized is: pneumonia.

Standard medical texts will tell you that viruses, bacteria, and fungi can cause pneumonia.

Add to that, heavily polluted toxic air (as in Wuhan and other Chinese cities).

Add in extreme malnutrition.

YOU DON’T NEED A CORONAVIRUS TO EXPLAIN CASES OF PNEUMONIA IN CHINA.

So how many deaths from pneumonia occurred in China well before the “appearance of the coronavirus?”

Estimates vary. Here is one, based on an analysis of studies: 2.8 million to 17 million deaths per year.

Source: “Pneumonia Incidence and Mortality in Mainland China: Systematic Review of Chinese and English Literature, 1985-2008

Notice the dates—1985-2008, long before the supposed coronavirus showed up.

Even before 5G technology and even before a biowar research lab ramped up in Wuhan.

2.8 million to 17 million deaths.

No need for a mysterious virus.

Presently, there is a gigantic pool of people with pneumonia, in China, who are being labeled “deaths from the coronavirus.”

Why may I not rightly ask ...

'So why hasn’t pneumonia, all by itself, been labeled an epidemic in China in past years'?

'Why hasn’t the World Health Organization, at the very least, declared a state of emergency for China based on pneumonia?'

'How easy would it be to label pneumonia outside China with the coronavirus tag?'

Here is a quote:
“[Globally] About 200 million cases of viral community-acquired pneumonia occur every year”
Lancet, volume 377, ISSUE 9773, P1264-1275, April 09, 2011.

How easy is it to declare an epidemic and broadcast propaganda about it?

Can you take a conventional set of symptoms present in people all over the world and claim a new virus is causing them?

Can you report 500 or 1000 deaths from this virus and people will believe whatever you say or do next?

Has this set of symptoms has been present in millions and millions of people, for decades or centuries, without the new virus?

Have millions of people not already died without the 'Brand New Virus.'
 
Ritafee said:
why hasn’t pneumonia, all by itself, been labeled an epidemic in China in past years'?
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Probably because it isn’t caused by just one virus. And quarantining against pollution would not make much sense, would it?
Logic isn’t quite your strongest side, is it? People can be treated successfully for all kinds of pneumonia, but still some will die of it, the same way as people will die of sepsis, despite treatments for it. This virus is not known enough to have treatments for it and stop the spread.
Tell us, if you knew you had the virus but only with mild symptoms, would you self quarantine or would you keep running around spreading it because you don’t want to be limited in your freedom and this is just a form of “ natural selection”? Which, of course, in fact it would be, if we haven’t invented all kinds of beneficial technologies to treat diseases.
 
There are a lot of people dying of other common diseases there. They are not getting proper medical attention these days. And not everyone is being tested and identified for having the virus or not, but are still dying from some form of pneumonia. I don't see how this massive lockdown is a solution.

Wash your hands. Sneeze and cough into your elbow, covering your nose and mouth.
 
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