Novel Coronavirus

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Register Log in
Waterfall said:
What I think about is how long was this virus circulating before the numbers became large enough to start registering significant deaths and illness.....was it spreading quietly before it became noticable and alerts went out? After all it began with just a few cases and then started to increase at some point exponentially. And right now there are other countries at that beginning stage. Will they have a higher caseload down the road? It could go either way....contained or not?
Also im not so sure this is an ordinary flu like what we are familiar with given all the hype.....maybe the hype we're being fed is that its "just another flu like virus" but then again maybe its not. Who knows? Because there are just as many reports that say the opposite to the site you posted.....we are sitting ducks basically, waiting to see how it pans out.
Click to expand...
I'd like to know, how is this virus behaving in cases being monitored outside of China? Because in China people are not being treated for a number of things while the fear/hype about this spreads. I.e. The bodies in the hallways you may have seen footage of, may have died from who knows what - from neglect of other problems.

If it's behaving like a flu virus everywhere else then it's being hyped.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I'd like to know, how is this virus behaving in cases being monitored outside of China? Because in China people are not being treated for a number of things while the fear/hype about this spreads. I.e. The bodies in the hallways you may have seen footage of, may have died from who knows what - from neglect of other problems.

If it's behaving like a flu virus everywhere else then it's being hyped.
Click to expand...
If youre seeing the bodies in the newly built hospitals its more than likely from the virus as theyre only accepting those with coronavirus.
 
Waterfall said:
we are sitting ducks basically, waiting to see how it pans out.
Click to expand...
The same way it always does ... everyone is distracted from the reality that millions of people die from pneumonia and influenza every year ... but if you blame it on a 'new' virus ... presto ... all the other blatantly obvious reason for these epidemics just falls by the wayside and we are back to the one problem one solution game .

The population in China was getting out of control ... now the whole world is on board for quarantining them ... until we can get another 'magic bullet' to protect ourselves.
 

Diabetics at greater risk of death from coronavirus

A diabetes expert in Hong Kong has urged all people with high blood sugar to be extra vigilant as the disease can weaken immunity and make them more vulnerable to the coronavirus, RTHK reports.The only death linked to coronavirus reported in Hong Kong so far has been a 39-year-old man with...
www.thestandard.com.hk www.thestandard.com.hk

I found this interesting......

No matter the virus most survive.
My only added precaution at present is to use hand sanitizer when visiting/on public transport etc. After contacting a nasty virus on an Alaskan cruise -and getting sick on most cruises -I no longer cruise.
 
Waterfall said:
If youre seeing the bodies in the newly built hospitals its more than likely from the virus as theyre only accepting those with coronavirus.
Click to expand...
No. The regular hospitals. Because other patients are not getting proper care. They're locking the doors.

Again, we should be paying attention to how this virus behaves outside of the mayhem in China.
 
ChemGal said:
Makes it easier to differentiate from other coronaviruses when discussing it.
Click to expand...
Don't think the people that it is affecting most really care to discuss the name of it ...
The last video of Bin Fang who exposed the truth of #coronavirus, before he was captured by the Chinese Communist Party.
The western and US, please save Bin from CCP’s persecution retweet and let more people know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1227579355565563909
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Who honestly thinks China (authority) is handling it appropriately and they're completely above board and can be trusted?
Click to expand...

Who honestly thinks?

Is China using the Coronavirus situation to mercilessly stamp out a national revolution?

Is it merely one of those 'name a virus' coincidences that the streets of Hong Kong are now empty?

Could the Chinese government have shut down massive months-long protests without the whole world's support to 'fight the virus'?

The streets of Hong Kong are suddenly empty and the Chinese regime is arrested and disappearing all truth tellers.

WHO honestly knows that this has all the signs of a classic Communist purge?

WHO inside and outside of China knows the truth about what is happening right now inside the world’s largest communist nation?

Why pay any attention to videos and citizen journalist reports that have made it beyond the great firewall of China ?

If a totalitarian and authoritarian regime maintains brutal control by terrorizing its own people - WHO cares?
 
Thought is a fringe condition irrationally excluded by those supporting passion alone as it buries intellect ...

Understood in a schitzoidic manna? Thats divided and split decision ... ordinary life!

Pondere dite? ... nope! ... 2 deep ...
 
The numbers outside China - death rate in particular - are incongruent with what we're hearing inside China. What do doctors unaffraid to speak, know about how exactly this virus behaves from watching cases closely in a non-panicked, not overly strained, environment?
 
Last edited:
PilgrimsProgress said:
I found this interesting......

No matter the virus most survive.

After contacting a nasty virus on an Alaskan cruise -and getting sick on most cruises -I no longer cruise.
Click to expand...
One might also consider this when 'cruising' ...

To the cruise ship industry, a key issue is demonstrating to the public that cruising is safe and healthy for passengers and the tourist communities that are visited by their ships.

Cruise ships carrying several thousand passengers and crew have been compared to “floating cities,” in part because the volume of wastes produced and requiring disposal is greater than that of many small cities on land.

During a typical one-week voyage, a large cruise ship (with 3,000 passengers and crew) is estimated to generate

210,000 US gallons (790,000 L) of sewage;

1 million US gallons (3,800 m3) of graywater (wastewater from sinks, showers, and laundries);

more than 130 US gallons (490 L) of hazardous wastes; 8 tons of solid waste;

25,000 US gallons (95 m3) of oily bilge water.[5]

Passengers singlehandedly produce up to 7.7 pounds of waste in a single day aboard a cruise ship.[6]

Those wastes, if not properly treated and disposed of, can pose risks to human health, welfare, and the environment.

Environmental advocates have raised concerns about the adequacy of existing laws for managing these wastes, and suggest that enforcement of existing laws is weak.

The cruise ship industry is a significant and growing contributor to the United States economy, providing more than $32 billion in benefits annually and generating more than 330,000 U.S. jobs, but also making the environmental impacts of its activities an issue to many.

 
Last edited:
ChemGal said:
Makes it easier to differentiate from other coronaviruses when discussing it.
Click to expand...
Because it HAS TO BE A VIRUS?

The VIRUS, by any name, is not the leading cause of the illness and death.

The original VIRUS cover story was simply:

"This epidemic is being caused by a new human virus.”

People are now debating whether the virus has been weaponized.
People are now debating whether the virus was created or altered in a lab.
People are debating whether it leaked out of a lab or was intentionally released.
People are debating whether the Americans or the Chinese cooked up the virus.
People are debating whether China is doing right locking down 50 million people. People are debating whether China is killing people “infected with the virus.”

Deeper and deeper the VIRUS cover story goes.

AND REGARDLESS OF WHICH SIDE OF A DEBATE PEOPLE TAKE ...
ALL SIDES SUPPORT "THE VIRUS" AS THE CAUSE.

That’s how good cover stories work:

People keep busy disagreeing on details of the big one ...
but automatically buy into the central unproven assertion of the big one.

Regardless of what else is in question ...

The cover story is intact - this IS an EPIDEMIC CAUSED BY VIRUS

Then we have the ever popular: “the effect proves the cause.”

Since people are dying (the effect) ...
the announced cause (the virus) must be true.

Why would China be locking down 50 million people (the effect)...
unless the virus (cause) was killing people?

Absurd arguments based on appeal to authority as the fount of wisdom.

If the people in charge of policy behave AS IF ..
a virus were spreading and killing people ...
then the virus “must be the cause of the epidemic.”

And we see:
Photos and footage of people in hazmat suits.
People lying in the street in Wuhan.
Workers loading a person on a stretcher into an ambulance.
Crowded hospitals.

Therefore: THE VIRUS.

An important US public health official—Tony Fauci—tells the press he wants a fast analysis from experts about the outside possibility that the coronavirus is a bio-weapon.

But either way, it’s THE VIRUS.

A Chinese scientist is blaming the US for weaponizing the coronavirus and launching it against the Chinese people? Did he actually blame the US?

Yes or no, it’s THE VIRUS.

Here’s a quick stew of recent headlines in the press:

* Virus storytellers reject China’s official narrative…

* Virus could infect 60% of global population if unchecked…

* WHO: Virus Vaccine 18 Months Away…

* Cruise Ship Rejected Virus by Five Ports Runs Out of Options…

* CDC mistakenly releases San Diego’s first positive virus case from hospital…

* UPDATE: MILITARY HAS MASS VIRUS QUARANTINE CAMPS SET UP IN USA…

* Experts Worry as Germ-Phobic Trump Confronts Growing Virus Epidemic…

Just suppose we were seeing a completely different set of headlines, plus absolute re-enforcement and confirmation from elite television news anchors, every night (based on the research of outliers):

* MASSIVE AIR POLLUTION OVER WUHAN CREATING ALL THE SYMPTOMS OF THE SO-CALLED EPIDEMIC; LARGE STREET PROTESTS AGAINST THE POLLUTION NOW GONE OWING TO LOCKDOWN

* YALE REVIEW: MIX OF HIGHLY TOXIC AIR POLLUTANTS IN WUHAN NEVER BEFORE OBSERVED IN WORLD HISTORY

* THE CHINESE EPIDEMIC ILLNESS—pneumonia—HAS BEEN KILLING BETWEEN 2 AND 17 MILLION CHINESE PEOPLE EACH YEAR LONG BEFORE THERE WAS A CORONAVIRUS

* DIAGNOSTIC TESTS FOR CORONOVIRUS COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE

* UNTOLD THOUSANDS OF CHINESE PEOPLE BEING LABELED WITH “CORONAVIRUS” AFTER USELESS TESTS OR NO TESTS AT ALL

In that case, some very interesting things would happen to the virus cover story.

A “readjustment” of information revolutionizes perception.

“But it HAS TO BE the virus... Otherwise we need a new reality.”

Most of the above is a lot of paraphrasing by myself from an article entitled:

"The Virus first, last, and always in the hearts of our Countrymen"

by Jon Rappoport
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top