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I watched Dr Henry's briefing today. Someone asked about how quickly the virus changes. She said it changes very slowly so that suggests that a longer immunity and a vaccine that last longer are possible. I found that interesting
 
in other words its why theyre pushing masks more now because we have little defence other than social distancing and masks help somewhat.
But there is no real consensus on anything at this point is there?
I'm all for stopping this crazy thing flying around. I want to save lives. But which lives are we going to save? Which experts do we trust? I know where my limits are and I want to go find out what the people who spend their entire lives looking into these things are doing and saying but what I find is 'there is no consensus'. This puts me in a position of having to make a choice ... free will is the debate that is underlying all of the stuff that is happening right now. Does the individual exist? Am I that individual? How do I as an individual relate to the society of my fellow wo/man? Who gets to control that relationship? The individual or the collective? That is a whole 'other' debate though ... so in keeping with the 'maskdebating' here in Canada ...

Dr. Theresa Tam is warning Canadians to get used to COVID-19 restrictions, like wearing masks and social distancing. Rules like these could be around for years, even with an effective vaccine.

... so now the goal post is ? 2-3 years even with the 'shots in the dark' (vaccination).

It started with 'we' just have to do this to make sure that our hospitals didn't get overrun - remember that?

Then out the mouths of the Gates - there is no normal until the 'shot'(sss) come out and all across the world all the news anchors and political puppets started repeating that like a mantra ... so now we have to restrict your 'movements' .... for weeks? ... months? ... years?

Interesting that this is the time in Canada that Walmart - BIG stores that did not have to close ... the stores that we are being corralled into ... are now going to Mandate Mask wearing. So if the Government does not yet want to impose mandates and get the people all rebellious and such ... the Big Stores can back door it for them - Because they care more for your health than they do for profit - hey if you don't want to wear a mask ... go somewhere else ... WALMART cares.
 
Here is a doctor in Dublin putting on 6 face masks while recording his oxygen levels on an oximeter.
Is this like the new challenge ... healthy individuals proving that you can breathe through layers and layers of garbage without passing out ... why did he not put them on a 6 year old kid and make the kid run around the playround as fast as he could 6 times ... maybe put them on his 96 year old grandma and make her walk the dog for 6 miles. What is the point of these ridiculous exercises - how long did he do it for?
 
And a doctor argues FOR face masks:
Bottom Line ...
“As a society, we owe it to one another to make sure that we protect each other in the best way we can,” she said. “And one of those best ways turns out to be widespread use of masks. If we’re to reopen as a society successfully, we must do that.”

Widespread use of masks ... or you have to stay locked up. Just wear the mask ... Don't ask questions .... just wear the mask ... it doesn't hurt a bit ... just wear the mask ... it doesn't really help ... but wear the mask.

Might countries that are doing better be doing just as better without all the masking ... will we ever know ... not if we have 100% compliance we won't.
 
Bottom Line ...
“As a society, we owe it to one another to make sure that we protect each other in the best way we can,” she said. “And one of those best ways turns out to be widespread use of masks. If we’re to reopen as a society successfully, we must do that.”

Widespread use of masks ... or you have to stay locked up. Just wear the mask ... Don't ask questions .... just wear the mask ... it doesn't hurt a bit ... just wear the mask ... it doesn't really help ... but wear the mask.

Might countries that are doing better be doing just as better without all the masking ... will we ever know ... not if we have 100% compliance we won't.
It turns out that didn't work for Sweden. I hoped it might but it didn't.
 
I'm not into the conspiracy theories as you are. That's a ridiculous question
So in other words you don't know the answer ... it is a serious question ... Does Dr. Henry have the final authority in B.C. or is there someone that can override her directives. If so would that be Dr. Tam?
 
I have no idea Rita. They do work together from my understanding. I'm not in the inner circle and do not speculate about nefarious motives.
 
have no idea Rita. They do work together from my understanding. I'm not in the inner circle and do not speculate about nefarious motives.
Guess I will just have to wait and see then. I don't imagine Dr. Henry has any nefarious motives ... she seems pretty level headed ... just wondering if she has the final word in her domain or if she will be compromised at some point if the 'national' policy changes.
 
Dr. Henry echoed Dr. Tam’s explanation that wearing a non-medical mask (such as a handmade cloth face covering) won’t protect the wearer but can be similar to coughing into sleeve or tissue, as it “may keep droplets in so that they’re not in the air or not on surfaces around you”.

Sounds good to me ...
Why can we not cough into our sleeves anymore?
I am remembering my mother wanting to hold her own personalized cloth handkerchiefs as she lay dying. Whatever happened to that old protocol. Oh that's right inconvenient ... toxic garbage is better ... because we care. So glad she passed away before this became a problem ... Singing hymns and having visitors was what she lived for.
 
Dr. Henry echoed Dr. Tam’s explanation that wearing a non-medical mask (such as a handmade cloth face covering) won’t protect the wearer but can be similar to coughing into sleeve or tissue, as it “may keep droplets in so that they’re not in the air or not on surfaces around you”.
We're still learning Rita, for the longest time we were told it was droplets only, then aerosols, now airborne......masks help with that.
Some things you say may come true, who knows, but until you present verified scientific data through an uninfluenced independent reputable agency, some of the things you bring up would be negligible to believe and it makes you just as gullible as you see the rest of us.
 
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