Is Ontario headed for another Wynne win?

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It's BS.

But I love to see how liberal brains work.
Alberta NDP say we are doing good. That makes it a fact.
By that logic, everything Trump says should make it a fact.

Fort Mac burned down. Now there is growth because construction workers are employed, and materials. Woo Hoo. Look at the growth.

Too bad the NDP killed the need for houses at Ft. Mac. So they are rebuilding a ghost town!
The houses are worthless.

Single income families that were making big bucks and live in 2 story houses with elevators, now are two income families with one in the paint department at Home Depot and the other greeting at Walmart. Wow that's twice as many in the work force. Stupendous growth.

Anybody can make numbers say whatever they want. Why aren't the graphs for every province the same? Because they want to tell you a bunch of different stories.

The ALBERTA one is BS.
 
PG-13, we get that you don't LIKE the reasons for growth, the quintessential uncertainty of living in a province both very tied to resources, and also somewhat inhospitable in climate for the most part. The FACT remains that, for whatever reason, Alberta led the other provinces in economic growth in 2017.

We also get your OPINION of the current government, but the FACT still remains that Alberta led the other provinces in GDP growth in 2017...
 
Facts and statistics don't really matter because it's all politics. No matter what the facts are and what the statistics say the truth of the matter is that as long as the NDP is in power in Alberta (the same applies to any other province and federally) those who are to the right will say that the economy is in the tank and those who are to the left will say that the economy is doing great. Should the Conservatives be in power, those who are to the left will say that the economy is in the tank and those who are to the right will say that the economy is doing great. Depending on what the statistics say, one side will claim the statistics to support their side and the other side will use anecdotal evidence to say that the statistics are wrong.
 
Politics means, literally, government by the people. If the people don't think facts matter, then what benchmark are they to judge a government on? How good it makes them feel? If we think there are no reliable facts, upon what do we base our vote? I'm really disliking the path upon which you think we're set, rev...
 
Also, PG-13, a "liberal brain"? What the actual f***? A Liberal Brain relies on facts, provided by a bank, usually considered pretty right wing, compared to a Conservative Brain, which relies upon what?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Politics means, literally, government by the people. If the people don't think facts matter, then what benchmark are they to judge a government on? How good it makes them feel? If we think there are no reliable facts, upon what do we base our vote? I'm really disliking the path upon which you think we're set, rev...
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I'm not saying that I like it, either. But can you deny it.
 
I'd argue that my particular children seem to know better than to live life by contrived emotion generated by advertising and other media. Which means that it can be taught. We'd need a commitment to do it, though.

I watched a whole bunch of young people live through, often more than once, the horror of basic College Statistics courses. What we are doing so wrong in high schools that we can't prep them for basic stats horrifies me.
 
revsdd said:
I'm not saying that I like it, either. But can you deny it.
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Thus the realization of the bag-man (sock rates) in political extremes where the facts are kept in the sack ... stuff the common people shouldn't know about the rising poles ... a' post olics/oilis? The spell is a Freudian slip ... a thought that will shoot up and blossom later ... generally unseen by those without decent response abilities ... they all be quiet as a stunned population ... the paradigm?

If the shue fitz ...
 
Then there is a conservative fixation ... can't learn anything beyond the Circe ... causes ringing in de head-man as God calls with cross-over ... archae IHC lye a Passover function ... if you viewed the rocks in the hills ... ammonites rise up ... as primal amines ...

These can be related too by despised alchemii ... too ancient a word as held in the deep pools of mind as a splash?

If deep inde shoe'll ... hard shell contained you may not go far ... Nautilus has innate buoyancy ... a mystery with the heavies ...
 
Jae said:
The undue minimum wage hike closes down an iconic Toronto store. The first of many businesses it will shut down? The Condom Shack is closing after 25 years on Queen West
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Except if you read the article, the primary issue was rising commercial rent, not the wage hike. Sad to see that the once vibrant Queen West scene is being gutted by rent inflation, but that's not Wynne's doing or even her problem.
 
Mendalla said:
Except if you read the article, the primary issue was rising commercial rent, not the wage hike. Sad to see that the once vibrant Queen West scene is being gutted by rent inflation, but that's not Wynne's doing or even her problem.
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The article does mention the rise in rent, true. Nevertheless, the way I read it, the key issue is Wynne's undue minimum wage hike.
 
blogto.com said:
Store manager Charlotte Dineley cited "high commercial rent" and the minimum wage hike, among other factors.

"Queen West is no longer suited to independent businesses," said Dineley, who's been working at The Condom Shack full time for three years.

Employees say they saw the closure coming in light of skyrocketing rent prices that have crippled so many other local businesses in recent years.
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This is the only part of the blog entry that cites reasons for the closure. I see one reference to the minimum wage hike. I also see a reference to "high commercial rent," a statement that "Queen West is no longer suited to independent businesses" - which has everything to do with the cost of renting retail space on Queen West - and the observation of employees that "they saw the closure coming in light of skyrocketing rent prices that have crippled so many other local businesses in recent years."

But the "key issue" is the minimum wage hike? Especially since "other local businesses" have been "crippled ... in recent years" - so, long before the minimum wage hike.

The minimum wage hike is the "key issue" only if you're predisposed to see it as the "key issue" and choose to be blind to everything else the article says.
 
revsdd said:
This is the only part of the blog entry that cites reasons for the closure. I see one reference to the minimum wage hike. I also see a reference to "high commercial rent," a statement that "Queen West is no longer suited to independent businesses" - which has everything to do with the cost of renting retail space on Queen West - and the observation of employees that "they saw the closure coming in light of skyrocketing rent prices that have crippled so many other local businesses in recent years."

But the "key issue" is the minimum wage hike? Especially since "other local businesses" have been "crippled ... in recent years" - so, long before the minimum wage hike.

The minimum wage hike is the "key issue" only if you're predisposed to see it as the "key issue" and choose to be blind to everything else the article says.
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I noted that the article also mentioned the rent issue Steven. Please do not try to paint me as if I did not. I stand by my comments.
 
Jae said:
I noted that the article also mentioned the rent issue Steven. Please do not try to paint me as if I did not. I stand by my comments.
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I didn't say that you didn't mention the rent issue. I took issue with your contention that the increase in minimum wage was the "key issue." It's mentioned once in an article that otherwise highlights the years long problem of rent in the Queen West area. It's not in any way the "key issue" mentioned in the article.
 
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