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To me, what @BetteTheRed posted, "the other, since un-named, is presumed to be a female." sounds like she was claiming it to be the consensus, since she didn't identify who was making the presumption.
Mendalla said:
It could be as Dr. Boice suggests. That said, as I've said, most depictions I've seen suggest otherwise. For example, check out https://www.google.ca/search?site=&...0.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..15.0.0.0.aHI21J47HIs
I was interested in what Dr. Boice's credentials were, as his is a name new to me, however I was not able to locate his "about" page.
Mendalla said:
The words "the author" in my post linking to the article is a link.
Nice. Thank you Mendalla.
When in doubt always go with the moral majority! Works for teenagers ... and they get to learn about sects and conception that way ... thus learning proceeds and processes even thought the kids are protected from love and other evils ...
I like the abstract of a loving, overseeing, sexless angel that watches ... a kind of abstract hue or dark cloud that is said to be non-physiological ... just something conjured or imagined ... said to be witches by those that go on what they wish without adequate foreign intelligence ...
Some call this a blind directive like Bush going into the Persian Area ... or others that declare war in a blind fury and knowing little ... of consequences that appear to be out there. Must be a bad quantum god that brings down injury on powerful men ... possibly from the effect of a god spread to thin because the population won't assist maintaining balance of bode, soul and spirit? Thated be an ethereal god right ... potentially .. because I couldn't say for sure.
The older and more mellow I get ... the more I see there is to learn and the more I learn I find there is not end to freign and strange knowledge ... some insist this is not so and they know everything including the integral gods ... alas not much integral wisdom .. really quite depressing to the bottom line ... or looking up perhaps just a funny reciprocation on the means and mediums to learn more?
I shall back off with the fringe gods and ponder this ... in the light of far out auras ... as distant Laura's ... thorny issues like Eros and Eris (more words from the unknown regions) ...
If one honoured God as the word laid down ... would one worship the redactions ... or try and assimilate the understandings across the years of change and manipulation by all side in human corruption? Some dictionaries call this anachronism ... but the understanding like all things varies depending on demand and how the individual (unintegrated) likes it ... results in mental shatter and shutter ... sometimes the ping of a crystal goblet!
Are open sols a common thing in church or rigidity? Teaching authoritative stoics tend to be rough ...
Besides on the character of female angels and ghosts ... we know to ancient archetypes of patriarchs that women were nothing and could be peddled as property. Look how they sold off their daughters ... (the primary sin before prostitution?):
The female sols thus got a bit Eyre and began to get all over the men as broad-based evil ... being that sects is bad in base-line churches ... but the population grows as if they were building armies instead of peace, besides, ladies in confinement dream of little people to look after (the MOG Complex):
The female sols thus got a bit Eyre and began to get all over the men as broad-based evil ... being that sects is bad in base-line churches ... but the population grows as if they were building armies instead of peace, besides, ladies in confinement dream of little people to look after (the MOG Complex):
- Blessed be the poor in spirit (emotions) they shall gather ...
- Blessed be the peace makers for they shall see into the strand occult (and what causes them bad dreams and subtle upsets to con science ...
KayTheCurler
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KayTheCurler
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I have chosen to presume that one of the people on the road was female for many years. I had a very open and encouraging feminist religion teacher and I'm pretty sure she suggested that when a person wasn't given a name in the text they could easily be female. Made sense to me then and now.
Mendalla
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Every now and then, you get a minister starting a church, or leading a movement to start one, so that it is kind of "their baby" even if it ends up in the control of the congregation in the end. Never heard of it in the UCCan, but have with church plants in other denominations. One of the UU churches in Toronto started that way, IIRC.
The disciple could have been female. However, I am not aware that the majority opinion amongst Bible scholars is that the disciple was female.
It's my friend's church in that he had the vision to plant the church, he led his family in doing the organization and fund-raising required to plant the church, and he is now the pastor of the church.
KayTheCurler
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How can anyone assume that someone in the bible is female if it's not specified? The bible is written to and mostly about, males. If you're going to assume a gender, at least go with the odds.
Mendalla
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I don't think @Jae is talking so much about voting as scholarly consensus, which is how most humanities operate since rigorous hypothesis testing as done in science doesn't work as well in something like theology or lit crit.
However, there is the Jesus Seminar. Read the methodology section.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar
Absolutely. However, to say that "it is presumed..." suggests that the majority hold a certain view - which in this case, to the best of my knowledge, is not the case.
Pinga
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Oh for frick's sake, Jae. Do you realize how annoying you are when you dig & dig & dig at a minor choice in words.
Let me state that since my involvement with the United Church of Canada, the discussions on females in the stories has been common including such items as mentioned by BetteTheRed.
As we all know, you come from a denomination that has significantly different understanding of women and women's roles.
We get it. You don't agree.
Can you leave it at that? or are you going to continue to go on ad nauseam on this topic.
Let me state that since my involvement with the United Church of Canada, the discussions on females in the stories has been common including such items as mentioned by BetteTheRed.
As we all know, you come from a denomination that has significantly different understanding of women and women's roles.
We get it. You don't agree.
Can you leave it at that? or are you going to continue to go on ad nauseam on this topic.
Perhaps you haven't noticed Pinga - others have been discussing the matter with me. So long as they choose to do so, I may choose to respond. That's kind of the way conversations go in the world we live in. That said, you have in a way spoken to something I was wondering about - if the idea that the other disciple was a woman is a liberal church thing. I feel what @BetteTheRed should have perhaps really said is that she presumes the other disciple was a woman. Can't argue if that's the case.