Well its always interesting to hear more than one opinion. Thanks for your opinion.Waterfall ---the Scripture answers your Question -----of the body on resurrection
Philippians 3:20-21 (AMP)
20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;
21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even to subject everything to Himself, will [not only] transform [but completely refashion] our earthly bodies so that they will be like His glorious resurrected body
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This is from Bart's blog -----about the resurrection ----This Response that Mr Bart gives here will show you he has no idea what he is talking about ---he goes around the Mountain ---trying to poorly answer the question ask -----and don't forget Mr bart is talking about the resurrection of the flesh here -----The Flesh is not resurrected -----the Body is changed from Physical to Spiritual --------read here
Paul and the Resurrection of the "Flesh"? | The Bart Ehrman Blog
QUESTIONS: But what is a BODILY resurrection without the flesh? And doesn’t this indicate that the flesh (the corpse) didn’t matter anymore and could be left behind, rotting and decomposing? Isn’t it all about the spirit finally getting this new, better, perfect, divine ‘body’? Addendum: The...ehrmanblog.org
Paul and the Resurrection of the “Flesh”?
October 9, 2012
QUESTIONS:
But what is a BODILY resurrection without the flesh? And doesn’t this indicate that the flesh (the corpse) didn’t matter anymore and could be left behind, rotting and decomposing? Isn’t it all about the spirit finally getting this new, better, perfect, divine ‘body’?
Addendum: The Greek for ‘spiritual’ (like in spiritual body) is pneumatikos, right? According to Strong’s that means: pertaining to wind or breath, windy, exposed to the wind, blowing. Now those wouldn’t be obvious words to describe something physical or made out of matter, would it? They seems to rather define something ‘intangible’
RESPONSE:
OK, I’ve been getting a lot of questions along these lines (some on the blog itself). So I need to try to clarify the whole matter. It’s not easy, for a variety of reasons. But I’ll do my best.
First thing to stress: the ancient apocalyptic view of the human that Paul had is not the view of the human that WE have. This is one instance where it becomes crystal clear that we have to try to think in a way that we are decidedly not accustomed to if we want to understand Paul. For US, the body is made of flesh, so when we speak of flesh, we speak of the body. For Paul, the flesh and the body were two different things. That’s because, for him, “flesh” does not refer to what WE refer to when we refer to flesh. That is, we think of it as the meat that is hanging on our bones; but that is not what Paul is referring to. He does, of course, know that there is meat hanging on our bones, but that is what he thinks of as our body. It is not our flesh. “Flesh” is a technical term for Paul. It is the bad side of being human. It is that part of the human that has been corrupted by sin and is alienated from God. The flesh is the reason we cannot please God even by keeping the Law. Because sin, using the flesh, forces us to do things in opposition to God. The flesh needs to be destroyed. But since the flesh is not the same thing as the body, that does *not* mean that the body has to be destroyed. The body has to be redeemed, not destroyed. (See how Paul talks about “flesh” in Romans 6-8
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So if we put in bold what he says here --it really makes no sense and he doesn't answer the Question at all -----he just uses a lot of word but gives no explanation of what Paul means here -and what a horror description of the flesh ----meat that is hanging on our bones ------
This is Mr Bart's quote --------
For US, the body is made of flesh, so when we speak of flesh, we speak of the body. For Paul, the flesh and the body were two different things. That’s because, for him, “flesh” does not refer to what WE refer to when we refer to flesh. That is, we think of it as the meat that is hanging on our bones; but that is not what Paul is referring to. He does, of course, know that there is meat hanging on our bones, but that is what he thinks of as our body.
then he says -----
“Flesh” is a technical term for Paul. It is the bad side of being human. It is that part of the human that has been corrupted by sin and is alienated from God. The flesh is the reason we cannot please God even by keeping the Law. Because sin, using the flesh, forces us to do things in opposition to God. The flesh needs to be destroyed. But since the flesh is not the same thing as the body, that does *not* mean that the body has to be destroyed. The body has to be redeemed, not destroyed. (See how Paul talks about “flesh” in Romans 6-8)
So lets look at this he says -----
“Flesh” is a technical term for Paul. It is the bad side of being human. It is that part of the human that has been corrupted by sin and is alienated from God.
I say ---Well he says ----the flesh is the bad side of being humans ------the flesh here referrers to the Sin Nature we are born with -----but we also have a human Spirit and a corrupt soul -----all of which keep us alienated from God ------all have to be changed to be in right standing with God -----which he does not mention -----
He says -----The flesh is the reason we cannot please God even by keeping the Law.
I say ---------So the flesh can't please God because ??---which he does not give any answer to -----this answer is because all we do should be God driven by and through faith in Him not self driven -------as seen below -----
Strongs ----4561 (sarks) is generally negative, referring to making decisions (actions) according to self – i.e. done apart from faith -----
Thus what is "of the flesh (carnal)" is by definition displeasing to the Lord – even things that seem "respectable!"
In short, flesh generally relates to unaided human effort, i.e. decisions (actions) that originate from self or are empowered by self.
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Then he says -------the flesh keeps us from keeping the law ------Because sin, using the flesh, forces us to do things in opposition to God.
I say -----This is a contradiction to what he says above ------as now he says sin is using the flesh to force us to do things in opposition to God ----where before he says the flesh is bad -His quote here ---------It is that part of the human that has been corrupted by sin ---
So the Flesh as in the sin nature is NOT what keeps us from keeping the Laws ---
-cause We have a nature to sin ---the flesh cannot force us to sin ---we make the decision to sin all by ourselves -----and God gave the blessings and cursing for obedience and disobedience for Choosing to keep the laws or not ------ choose life or death God says -----so this shows we have a choice
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He says -----The flesh needs to be destroyed. But since the flesh is not the same thing as the body, that does *not* mean that the body has to be destroyed. The body has to be redeemed, not destroyed. (See how Paul talks about “flesh” in Romans 6-8)
This is the scripture he quotes here ------
Romans 6:8 (AMP)
8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live [together] with Him,
I say ---well folks here is where he goes off track -----because Romans 6:8 ---is referring to laying down the Sin Nature --it is not referring to the resurrected body that we will have when we ascend into heaven or hell ------which is what this question and answer was referring to ---
the title was -----Paul and the Resurrection of the “Flesh”?
So again he is floundering around here saying ------The flesh needs to be destroyed. But since the flesh is not the same thing as the body, that does *not* mean that the body has to be destroyed.
This physical body will die and be no more ----this physical body cannot be redeemed -------our Spirit and Soul needs to be made New in Christ -----
Our Physical body is made from the dust of the ground and the ground is still Cursed in this world and will be until the new earth comes into place ------no physical body will ever get into heaven or hell -----we will have different spiritual body -------
1 Corinthians 15:52 (AMP)
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at [the sound of] the last trumpet call. For a trumpet will sound, and the dead [who believed in Christ] will be raised imperishable, and we will be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed].
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