Ebola Outbreak

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Inannawhimsey said:
some true agape Christians perhaps? or other deeply religious & humanistic folks?

i know i probably couldn't do it; my character isn't that strong
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I am afraid those volunteers are often people who need money badly and have a low literacy level, so they don't really understand the medical terminology in the waiver they are signing.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Can you imagine being one of the "healthy volunteers" for the next round of trials? I wonder how they get those. Maybe some drug addicts who badly need money?
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Well ~ in Canada there are no laws requiring mandatory labelling of genetically modified foods. So, in effect, we are human subjects or "healthy volunteers", recruited without consent, in a grand experiment on GMOs and the health concerns and damage they may cause.
 
Inukshuk said:
Well ~ in Canada there are no laws requiring mandatory labelling of genetically modified foods. So, in effect, we are human subjects or "healthy volunteers", recruited without consent, in a grand experiment on GMOs and the health concerns and damage they may cause.
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I had started a thread a while ago on GMOs. What's the point of just labelling something as GMO or not? So what if certain plants get selected because they bare better fruit, or whatever other trait is selected for. If it's farmed I expect it to be a GMO. Why bother allowing things to drift to something that isn't desirable?

I thought this was a different thread for a minute - back to Ebola, I heard that the doctor who treated the man who died in Nigeria is now sick. I forget if it's suspected or confirmed to be Ebola.
I wouldn't be surprised if some people on the same flight end up sick as well.
 
It's starting to remind me of the movie Contagion. (scary movie - too realistic)

I realize that Ebola has claimed hundreds of lives and it's horrible. I just wonder if media is whipping up panic - because those African countries are highly populated - so ratio wise not as scary as it sounds? And also, there is no way to catch it if the person has no symptoms yet, is what I read - so easier to track and contain? I was sort of wondering why they were bringing people to the west for treatment instead of sending the same equipment and supplies and meds, for setting up better facilities/ field hospitals to deal with it there though. Would that be the wise thing to do?
 
You are bang on, Kimmio. Because it is spread only by direct contact with body fluids, it is fairly easy to contain with proper controls and isolation. The problem in Africa is the lack of hospitals with those controls and the fear that leads people to avoid seeking treatment or to seek non-effective treatments. Western nationals are being brought back precisely because we have hospitals with those controls, not to mention better access to better methods for rehydrating and mitigating organ damage. It would have been irresponsible of the US government to have left its nationals in those conditions, no matter what Donald Trump may think.

It once again points up the need for African governments, and their Western supporters (and, to be fair, Bill Gates and some other Western aid donors/supporters clearly recognize this), to knuckle down and build a proper, more sophisticated medical infrastructure rather than relying on Doctors Without Borders and related agencies to parachute people in every time something like this blows up.
 
@Kimmio I think it would be incredibly irresponsible to bring medications for Ebola, besides treating a select few, for reasons I've already mentioned - it's all experimental. During an outbreak, they can't just build the infrastructure. There are 4 hospitals in the US I think it was capable of dealing with something like this responsibly. I bet the numbers they could treat within those 4 are also low. There are outbreaks in 4 countries now. Bringing things like ventilators isn't cheap. I doubt many of the hospitals have the power capabilities to run them. I don't know how easy it would be to set up generators to run them, they would be necessary, as even when there is decent power, blackouts are common. In people with such high fevers, I bet just having decent AC would be an improvement.

Maybe my comments aren't true for all the hospitals currently affected, but I would be shocked they aren't true for at least some as I do know a few people who went to Africa, most Western Africa, including 1 nurse.
 
I just mean why was a treatment team not sent to those Americans/ German in particular, instead of putting them on a plane to Germany and US and bringing Ebola here.
 
New York's 'Little Liberia' Ebola fears
7 August 2014 Last updated at 09:26 BST

The largest Liberian community outside Monrovia is in Staten Island, New York.

Concerns about Ebola have forced many in the community to cancel their trips back home, but some have left the US before the outbreak and their return sparks fear about the risk of an outbreak in New York.

Video Journalist: Anna Bressanin

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Liberia declares state of emergency over Ebola virus
 
All air/rail/car travel should be stopped to and from those countries and they should be considered under quarantine until contained.
 
The tests are likely being sent out. They do have portable units, being used in Africa, but it takes special training as the samples need to be handled via special techniques. I would be shocked if these cases aren't super fast tracked, even when Ebola isn't the most probably cause of illness.

I've pointed out the aerosols before. Generally, hanging out with someone who has Ebola while they are vomiting or having diarrhea that splashes isn't being incredibly cautious.
 
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