Covid 19 Vaccine

[ChemGal]

Not getting sick for two years from most respiratory illnesses seems to have lowered the alertness of immune systems. This might be a factor in the greatly increased number of cases of Strep A in children in the UK where 9 children have died already this fall.

Strep is actually one that would surprise me if lack of exposure is a main effect.
My guess is it's moreso the reverse of flattening the curve along with kids already being unhealthy from Covid, flu, RSV, etc.
That's just my speculation though.

 

[Mendalla]

Anecdotally, the one member of my team with children (he has 3) has been working from home on average 1-2 days a week because of sick kids recently, none of them COVID so probably RSV, flu, etc.

 

[jimkenney12]

Mild cases of Covid seem to weaken the immune system. Masks make a difference in exposure to respiratory illnesses.

 

[Waterfall]

Anecdotally, the one member of my team with children (he has 3) has been working from home on average 1-2 days a week because of sick kids recently, none of them COVID so probably RSV, flu, etc.

Honestly, if I had kids in school, I'd be masking them. I have grandkids but no control over that.

 

[ChemGal]

Anecdotally, the one member of my team with children (he has 3) has been working from home on average 1-2 days a week because of sick kids recently, none of them COVID so probably RSV, flu, etc.

At least monkeypox wasn't thrown into that mix. I was concerned about that one switching from behaving less like an STI into something kids would transmit through the schools and daycares.

 

[ChemGal]

@Waterfall here's a study

Waning Immunity Against Respiratory Syncytial Virus During the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pandemic

This article shows decreased serum RSV antibody neutralization in women of childbearing age and infants in the context of COVID-19-related social distancin

academic.oup.com

That brings to mind another factor- passive immunity treatments. There's a delay with what's circulating to having that in the treatments. When it comes to something like hospital stays I see potential for that to be quite significant (whereas simple emergency room visits I think that population is too small).

 

[Waterfall]

@Waterfall here's a study

Waning Immunity Against Respiratory Syncytial Virus During the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pandemic

This article shows decreased serum RSV antibody neutralization in women of childbearing age and infants in the context of COVID-19-related social distancin

academic.oup.com

That brings to mind another factor- passive immunity treatments. There's a delay with what's circulating to having that in the treatments. When it comes to something like hospital stays I see potential for that to be quite significant (whereas simple emergency room visits I think that population is too small).

The study was interesting, although it was a relatively small population sample from a single regional health authority.
Also didnt mention if the participants had/ have Covid...vaccinated or not.

 

[Waterfall]

Currently there is no vaccine for RSV ( they are working on it) and antibiotics are not used for treatment because it's a virus. Most healthy kids that get it will just have a cough and mild symptoms for a week.
For some it can develop into bronchitis or pneumonia and for this reason they are recommending the flu shot for prevention of same.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

OK…admittedly I don’t know what to think about the above study I posted and the author, Dr. Prasad. It’s rubbing me the wrong way. He’s a respected scientist and professor as well as a controversial one. One of his interests seems to be in questioning big pharma motivations - which I think is a valid ethical question in medicine. And I gather that one of the reasons is that when studies on risks and efficacy are incomplete but drugs are promoted anyway - is waste on healthcare spending going toward pharma company profits (which strikes me as quite important to factor in if we consider other ways that are being encouraged to cut it, such as MAiD - though his concern is US these companies profit worldwide off of all nations’ consensus to invest in them). But I don’t understand all of the details enough to decide if specifically what he says about that is right or not - especially regarding Covid mandates. It’s interesting though that his colleague who posted the article I found, definitely does not strike me as any sort of right wing figure at all. If anything, that person’s social justice preferences would align with left leaning priorities overall. And he just posts what he posts on science - doesn’t appear to have any political agenda on the science of things, whatsoever. It’s too bad the science about public health became politicized because Covid and other infectious diseases don’t have a political point of view. And now the public is all confused and vulnerable, and fighting each other.

Vinay Prasad - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Luce NDs]

Is everything a dynamic including humans stuck on all extremes and what they believe; are extremists in the midst of the checks and balances?

Is there anything more established than things intangible and ineffable? If you don't feel it (pathei) did it move on or someone deny and waste the processed info as an unacceptable thought interfering with the winning darkness (gamos)?

Imagine a greatest comprehension of the vast unknown! Not to happen with a cluster of folk that have a solide concept that everything is in hand ... hard to grasp ... right? Then imagine one wing clapping about advances ... non-binary? Diabolical advocation? Got to appreciate all things in the darker connections of our knowledge ... the vast unconscious as appears in the autonomous system ...

All this may be hidden and sacred Gnostic in the eternal story ... we're not there yet ... but the future is mysterious ... not positive given how the powers behave as characterizations of dynamic innate forces of the mortal ... they say it is best if we don't know what's anon (that's coming yet).

It seems to be hidden in the composition of words of wisdom (trashed along with the knowledge by those rushing in ... fools)! What do we know about ancient linguistic connections to how we speak of good and evil today as a pain to support ?

Learning is like that pathy/pathei a pathological way to learn ... via pains? Some folk would rather the comfort of the established know how and no more ...

It goes on they say as a myth of coherence ... get on with it ... the conclusion is also nebulous ... perhaps individualized nebulae?

Tis all in how the Bull rests ...

 

[ChemGal]

Chemguy got his bivalent booster today. I wanted to know which, partially because of the BA.1 vs BA.4/5 plus just to see his side effects between the different brands.
His response? I don't know, it was just whatever the pharmacist gave me. Good thing about having a local pharmacist who did it, he shot out a message, he got the same that I did. Hopefully he won't be feeling too sore or worn down.

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

Chemguy got his bivalent booster today. I wanted to know which, partially because of the BA.1 vs BA.4/5 plus just to see his side effects between the different brands.
His response? I don't know, it was just whatever the pharmacist gave me. Good thing about having a local pharmacist who did it, he shot out a message, he got the same that I did. Hopefully he won't be feeling too sore or worn down.

Don’t you know what you are getting when you sign up for it online?

 

[paradox3]

Got mine a few days ago. My arm is still slightly tender to touch but it's hardly worth mentioning.

 

[ChemGal]

Don’t you know what you are getting when you sign up for it online?

Here online is for an AHS clinic, not pharmacy. I don't think there are any in the city anymore. There's still public health centers for kids under a certain age, not totally sure of their current system.
With pharmacies you can see brands online last I looked it didn't specify the bivalent though. Some pharmacies might use their own online system, the ones we have used have not, although I can message my pharmacist via fb messenger and did do that for my last one. Chemguy called around lunch and went after work, most pharmacies will take walkins too as they are no where close to booked up.

 

[ChemGal]

Chemguy seems to get GI symptoms as a side effect from them. Nothing too bad no nausea this time but some diarrhea.

 

[paradox3]

My worst experience ever was with the seniors version of the flu shot. I had a vicious headache and vomiting 8 hours later. Fortunately neither symptom lasted long.

I skipped the shot the next two years and have been hearing that my experience was not terribly uncommon. I decided to see if I could get the regular version this year. My pharmacist is fine with this.

In fact she said there has been a shortage of the geriatric version lately and it is recommended to get whatever is available. Going back next week for it.

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

Here online is for an AHS clinic, not pharmacy. I don't think there are any in the city anymore. There's still public health centers for kids under a certain age, not totally sure of their current system.
With pharmacies you can see brands online last I looked it didn't specify the bivalent though. Some pharmacies might use their own online system, the ones we have used have not, although I can message my pharmacist via fb messenger and did do that for my last one. Chemguy called around lunch and went after work, most pharmacies will take walkins too as they are no where close to booked up.

In NS flu shots and Covid shots are centralized on a website. You put your address in and can scroll through the places, clinics and pharmacies, and pick your appointment. You get an email with confirmation and a link to click if you habe to cancel. Very convenient. But maybe that only works because NS has only one million residents.

 

[Northwind]

In NS flu shots and Covid shots are centralized on a website. You put your address in and can scroll through the places, clinics and pharmacies, and pick your appointment. You get an email with confirmation and a link to click if you habe to cancel. Very convenient. But maybe that only works because NS has only one million residents.

That is basically what BC does too. We register in the vaccine site and then get an invite when there's a vaccine for us. We register online in the manner you describe. I have found it works quite well.

 

[ChemGal]

In NS flu shots and Covid shots are centralized on a website. You put your address in and can scroll through the places, clinics and pharmacies, and pick your appointment. You get an email with confirmation and a link to click if you habe to cancel. Very convenient. But maybe that only works because NS has only one million residents.

The mass AHS clinics worked similarly here. Pharmacies were unaware of when they would get their shipments, so they just called people the day they got them and AB did a great job of using the supply quickly when the demand was high. Many other provinces were slower at using them quickly.

Now with the excess stock for me it's easier to order refills and book at the same time, double check it's the specific one I want. Others might drop in when doing errands. Chemguy probably wouldn't have bothered calling but we use a very small pharmacy and I think she might be the only pharmacist there.

 

[ChemGal]

In NS flu shots and Covid shots are centralized on a website. You put your address in and can scroll through the places, clinics and pharmacies, and pick your appointment. You get an email with confirmation and a link to click if you habe to cancel. Very convenient. But maybe that only works because NS has only one million residents.

What should be centralized now at least for a list of where it's in stock? Kids acetaminophen, ibuprofen and allergy meds.
Throw in the necessity of leaving the PHN for the child as well to prevent hoarding.