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Mrs.Anteater

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I read that for the booster shot one should get the other one from what one had before- Pfizer if you had Moderna and the other way around for the best results. Anybody knows anything about that?
 

Mendalla

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I read that for the booster shot one should get the other one from what one had before- Pfizer if you had Moderna and the other way around for the best results. Anybody knows anything about that?
What if you had one of each? I'm mixed mRNA.
 

ChemGal

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I read that for the booster shot one should get the other one from what one had before- Pfizer if you had Moderna and the other way around for the best results. Anybody knows anything about that?
I doubt it would make a big difference. It would help if the sequences are published, I haven't seen that.
Extremely unlikely they are exactly the same so mix and match would result in an increase of antibody variability although they would target the same protein.

All 3 of mine were Moderna but I wouldn't have minded if it was a mix.
 

ChemGal

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Ooh, looks like the sequence info is available SpikeVax/Moderna (Chemistry section has some info, need to follow through on the reference, didn't do that yet) Moderna COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia

Comirnaty/Pfizer info is under Pharmacology Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia

Full sequences - Assemblies-of-putative-SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding-mRNA-sequences-for-vaccines-BNT-162b2-and-mRNA-1273/Assemblies of putative SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding mRNA sequences for vaccines BNT-162b2 and mRNA-1273.docx.pdf at main · NAalytics/Assemblies-of-putative-SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding-mRNA-sequences-for-vaccines-BNT-162b2-and-mRNA-1273

In case pdf link doesn't work as they can be finicky - Assemblies of putative SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding mRNA sequences for vaccines BNT-162b2 and mRNA-1273

Unfortunately the sequences are figures, not text, so can't just copy them to throw into a comparison tool (I'm not up to date on what exists anyway). My guess is someone has done that somewhere.

Detailed Dissection and Critical Evaluation of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna mRNA Vaccines - Unfortunately reading a journal article is difficult with my eye eczema, even with zooming in.
 
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Waterfall

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I read Moderna has a higher efficacy in studies and for longevity, but theyre not sure if that's because those getting it were younger with better immune systems.
 

Northwind

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I read that for the booster shot one should get the other one from what one had before- Pfizer if you had Moderna and the other way around for the best results. Anybody knows anything about that?

BC is giving Moderna as a third dose. That's for clinically vulnerable people anyway. Apparently Moderna is stronger or something. That's all I know.
 

Luce NDs

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Is it a virtue to know that viral are not perfectly understood as warped version of the human jinn ... sometimes thought of as genetic essence!

One has to dive deep to learn such alien stuff that is denied from topside ... the surface of where those of adolescence believe they know it all. (I read that on FB today that adolescents know everything) a good reason to regress? A myth about lambda could be constructed here ... silently!

Moses did in the sight of a flaming passion ... it was scary ... as did Joseph in the vision of the matriarch of the abstract land (Egypt as imaginary creation) that was gritty and shifty to suit many grinds ... work of life is like than some finer than the alternate core Cis.

Some even get really torqued over vague words that the understanding was displaced millennia ago ... just to give a break from knowing ... given a populace would further not as they are too busy administering the unknown and darker aspects ...

Far Cide ... doing away with what's out there? Resembles Jinniç ide ... aberration of ξ a Xi from a Greek god? It is hinted she is connected to Psyche and Theosophical considerations of things beyond mortal ... you know ... out there for study! Don't touch ... hot stuff ...

Authorities will peddle info for big prices and much of it corrupt --- Lord Acton! Celebrities get involved because of status ... but you should know the lo' down! It is however not common given how things denied pile up ...
 

Luce NDs

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God is said to have given a sigh'n in the night sky ... discovered by a thin few! Some Bell scientists involved in the 4 th degree ... sometime encountered in the pines ... that's Ares, the carrier! Sometimes known as the mail man ringing ... expect malevolence and mischief ... given real people are encompassed ... it is a natural trend ... adds to the information and stray intelligence as scattered! Dis Semite or jest decimation ... attempts at improvement?

People really don't seem to like decent communication given how it is abused by powers ... freedom of communication ... check you bills! Perhaps antisocialism for the sake of piracy? Pyre ethics ... compression does it ... consider Black Holes ... they have Jet streams --- Hawking!
 

ChemGal

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I read Moderna has a higher efficacy in studies and for longevity, but theyre not sure if that's because those getting it were younger with better immune systems.
AB has shown it to be higher, although longevity isn't in there. I don't see why there would be an age difference between Moderna and Pfizer, as long as kids are excluded. There's a bit of timing jumps with arrivals and eligibility but I don't know how much of a difference is seen between Pfizer and Moderna age ranges due to that.
 
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Luce NDs

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I really don't think they know enough other than the stuff helps ... and a bunch of folk don't like assistance in living or dying!

Could explain for the dividing in the house ...
 

Mrs.Anteater

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To be fair, people had been upset when anti vaxxers have argued that “ vaccinations are an experiment with the population”. That isn’t the case with the adult population but considering that the trials on kids had only 2400 kids in it- yes, any rare side effects will only show when a lot more kids have had it. I would think that all meds and vaccinations are pretty much based on that, a continuous learning process.
 

Luce NDs

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Continuing learning process ... does this go on?

I once heard that the best teacher is a great scholar ... suggesting that the teacher too is still learning.

Might this separate the gods from the lighter spirits that are still on the go ...
 

ChemGal

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We are now vaccinating zoo animals. I feel a bit conflicted on that, there are people who still do not have access but I'm not entirely sure what the vaccines are that are being used (they are all emergency authorization) so it may not be affecting human supplies at all. We also have a good number of doses that are expiring, nd some of that is unavoidable but there could be ways to put doses to better use. There's also a responsibility with zoo animals, and many of the species are endangered.

J&J - really needs better advertising. I haven't watched all of the health updates lately. Considering a big part of the reason is the mRNA hesitant (and outright against) a bit more publicity can't hurt for a population that probably isn't as eager to seek out vaccine availability information. Here it is being used for anyone 18+ who can't or won't get an mRNA vaccine. Accessing isn't as simple as the other vaccines though, it's a call to book only as locations administering them are limited.
 

Mystic

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Just hired a Ukranian cleaning lady Tanya, mother of 6, for $20 an hour, $40 a week (the going rate here). She just lost her job at the local hospital for refusing to get vaccinated. Her husband forfeited a well-paying industrial job for the same reason. Now they are worried about how they
y can take care of their large family. I continue to be amazed at the price people are willing to pay to stand for a dubious principle.


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Mrs.Anteater

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Just hired a Ukranian cleaning lady Tanya, mother of 6, for $20 an hour, $40 a week (the going rate here). She just lost her job at the local hospital for refusing to get vaccinated. Her husband forfeited a well-paying industrial job for the same reason. Now they are worried about how they
y can take care of their large family. I continue to be amazed at the price people are willing to pay to stand for a dubious principle.


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You are brave- I wouldn’t want an unvaccinated person hang out in my house for several hours, touching and breathing on surfaces.
 

BetteTheRed

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You are brave- I wouldn’t want an unvaccinated person hang out in my house for several hours, touching and breathing on surfaces.

Me neither. And I will note that cleaning ladies are cheap in the U.S. Last time I had one, probably over a decade ago, the cheapest rate up here was $25 an hour, there was usually a 3-hr minimum.
 
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