Was Jesus a Vegetarian?

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Waterfall said:
Hosea 6:6
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea 6:6

Jesus quotes Hosea 6:6 in Mathew 9:13 and Mathew and Mathew 12:6-7. He said this to challenge the Pharisees, Paul was a Pharisee.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mathew 9:13&version=AMP

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mathew 12:6-7&version=AMP
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I don't think that has anything to do with vegetarianism so much as God saying that sacrifice does not take place of true compassion for others and contrition. It does not suggest that the "animal" part is the issue so much as the "sacrifice" part. Certainly, nothing there suggests a problem with eating meat.
 
revjohn said:
Peter's vision is about unclean animals being presented to him to eat. Peter's objection is not to being offered meat to eat so much as it is God offering him the wrong kind of meat.

The vision is repeated three times with pretty much the same script. God offers unclean animals, instructs Peter to rise, kill and eat and Peter protesting on the grounds that the meat is unclean

At the third and final run through God introduces new material. "Do not call unclean what I have made clean."

Peter awakes from the vision and what happens next?

A) he eats a hotdog wrapped in bacon
B) servants from Cornelius arrive at the house in Joppa where Peter is staying and God instructs Peter to go with them

Suggesting that the vision given to Peter was not about what the Christian could eat so much as it was about what God has made clean.
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So the dream is not about eating unclean food, but about Peter understanding that the Gentiles are not to be considered unclean? as in Acts 10:28

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+10:28
 
Waterfall said:
So the dream is not about eating unclean food, but about Peter understanding that the Gentiles are not to be considered unclean? as in Acts 10:28
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I believe so.
 
Waterfall said:
Unless He was trying to change the world back to where it was in the beginning, when all was good. Adam and Eve living with the animals, and not eating them and eating the nuts and fruit from the vegetation.

How far of a leap do we have to make to see that killing animals can lead us to killing anything that gets in our way.
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Quite a leap actually ......
 
RitaTG said:
No ... I save disgust for what is really important ... how we abuse each other....
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I'd guess that if you were really to consider or for you to see drinking another human's blood & really eating another human's flesh, that would be disgusting?

But I grok -- its theoretical to you and, as such, doesn't follow under being disgusted (which I think is a visceral emotional state that I'm guessing can't be controlled...)?

If you can control feeling disgusted, that would be, I think, a boon--and if it can be taught, ooooh yeah
 
revjohn said:

I believe so.
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Okay, agreed, but then we have the 7 Noahidic laws:

1.)Do not deny God
2.) Do not blaspheme God
3.) Do not murder
4.) Do not engage in illicit sexual relations
5.) Do not eat of a live animal (flesh with it's life blood in it you shall not eat...Talmud)
6.) Establish courts and legal systems to ensure obedience to the law

Acts 15:19-21
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15:19–21&version=ESV

So yes gentiles will be considered clean, but only if they follow the 7 Noahidic Laws?
 
Waterfall said:
Not really, why do we as Christians still fight in wars and justify the killing? Ever watch troops train that go to war? They are taught to behave like savages.
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Who are all these Christians you know who are running around killing people Waterfall?
 
Waterfall said:
Okay, agreed, but then we have the 7 Noahidic laws:
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Well, Jews do yes.

Waterfall said:
So yes gentiles will be considered clean, but only if they follow the 7 Noahidic Laws?
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That would have been the position of the Judaizers which Paul and Peter actually opposed. The Judaizers lost the day and Gentile Christians were not obligated to take on Jewish customs.

Clean and unlean meant nothing to Gentile Christians and they were not obligated to learn what it meant. Jewish Christians who knew what it meant could either keep that custom knowing it held no sway in Christian community or they could reject that custom.
 
So the Jews disagreed, and it was only Paul and Peter that argued the other way. Is that not the two of them arguing with God's covenant essentially? Wasn't the Noahidic Law given to all living creatures?

Not to mention, isn't there also a covenant given to the animals by God, essentially giving them equality with us?

Does God break covenants?
 
Waterfall said:
Anybody that identifies as Christian that enlists/fights in any army to suppress others
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There are many meat eaters in the world that do not engage in organized, genocidal violence, only the violence required for them to survive. Lions, tigers, sharks, etc. Why, then, do you think there is a relationship between eating meat and the kind of violence you are against?
 
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