Public School- Sexual Abstinence

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revsdd said:
My biggest memory of it is a film strip that was shown, and the uncomfortable and nervous giggling that broke out among both boys and girls when a male and female silhouette was shown and it was explained where people grow body hair as they get older. I do remember Mr. Curley (the teacher) stopping the film at that point and yelling at us all to behave like grown ups. Of course, we were 10-11 years old. We didn't act like grown ups. We giggled like kids. I don't think Mr. Curley liked teaching sex ed.
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Having Mr. Curley talk about new hair growth after puberty is just too easy. I can not blame your class.
 
I am serious ... as relates to this article in particular ... If this 'girl' is savvy enough to turn sex-ed into a debate about whether her human rights were violated ... should we waste time encouraging her ... why are we all so ready to be distracted from real violations of human rights and turn our energy to the 'proper' methods of sexualizing our children in the public school system. Abstinence, at least for public school aged children, should seriously be encouraged more often than not.
 
Holy crap, you're really serious?


Edit: I really thought you were joking and impersonating a fundie, what with the big letters and all. The Poe reference was my joke back. I need to compose my thoughts here.
 
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UnDefinitive said:
I am serious why are we all so ready to be distracted from real violations of human rights and turn our energy
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Darling,

there is no such thing as an activism/human rights violations/peace pool or reservoir that is used up. the world is HUGE and there are enough problems to go around for everyone, all without draining some abstract 'activism' pool.

you have your issues

others have their issues

and they don't have to conflict

keep going forth and doing what is up your alley, what moves you, and other people will continue to do so for themselves

though i do share your moments of boggling...i see a lot of things in the newspapers and shake my head at the waste of ink...or at someone racing their groin-extension down a street and thinking of all the better uses that fossil fuel can be used for (hospitals, food transport)...
 
Where should the line be drawn then, @UnDefinitive ? Anatomy? Hormones? There was a whole module on pregnancy and child birth in my health class - an option many took who went onto nursing.
 
@ ChemGal ... I think you answered your own question ... There was a whole module on pregnancy and child birth in my health class - an option many took who went onto nursing.
an option suggests NON-Mandatory.
 
UnDefinitive said:
@ ChemGal ... I think you answered your own question ... There was a whole module on pregnancy and child birth in my health class - an option many took who went onto nursing.
an option suggests NON-Mandatory.
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That's not what you suggested earlier. Should it be banned, or should it be an option?
What specific lessons should be banned? What lessons should be optional? Which should be mandatory?
 
First, and I thought this was blatantly obvious, but abstinence education does not work. At all. If you want kids to have sex early, the very best thing you can do is not talk about it except to say, "Do not do it!" Common sense and statistics will show the abstinence route leads to teenage moms faster than giving your children alcohol and paying for their hotel room.

Of course, teenage pregnancy is also higher in places that are very religious. Basically, if we took what religious groups have to say about sex education, and did the exact opposite, I think that would probably result in at least the start of a good curriculum.

In all seriousness, we need to get religious organizations the hell away from any secular education - not just sex ed. Taking cues from a 2000 year old book for how to teach sex ed today is archaic. We've learned a few things since then.
 
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There's also a fair amount of sex ed that isn't about sex, but rather the physical differences between the sexes.
 
ChemGal said:
There's also a fair amount of sex ed that isn't about sex, but rather the physical differences between the sexes.
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"No Billy! Eyes back on the chalkboard! No looking in your pants!"

"And no looking in Susie's pants, either!"
 
and then there is 'playing doctor' out of school prepubescentwise

who here hasn't done that?

i certainly did
 
crazyheart said:
Were you the doctor or the doctee?
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it's a faint memory, but there were 3 of us

my sister and our friend

i think we were sitting on the floor in her room, took our clothes off, and showed our bodies to each other and let us touch

i remember laughter

(i'm calling this 'doctor' because i've heard that is a word that can be used to describe this kind of play? )

i grew up in a family where our parents would try to answer our questions with lots of love, no beatings. swearing was dealt with my my mother giving us synonyms.
 
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@ ChemGal It is my belief that there should be no curriculum banned and no curriculum mandatory ... further to that I believe that public schooling itself should never be mandatory.
@ chansen
Using your version of common sense and statistics I would tell my children to play with matches to prevent them from burning the house down?

In all seriousness, what is secular education ? For that matter ... what is religion ?
 
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