New gender policy at Vancouver Catholic Schools

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An 11 year old transgender girl's human rights complaint prompts a change in policy at Vancouver Catholic schools (which is an independent system here. I think only some of the funding comes from government - the rest is private/ parent funded and from the Archdioces- but it's a different structure than Catholic school systems in other provinces. Even so, it sets an important precident.)

Transgender students can now use the pronouns, uniforms and washrooms that match their gender identity.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.2709429
 
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i'm glad that Tracey Wilson is getting some treatment for her pernicious & debilitating disorder earlier rather than later, saving her from a longer period of mental & physical etc pain & anxiety & fear

she is lucky to have such an iconoclastic lawyer as well :3

here's looking at the new sin being codified: thou shalt not deny a person's identity. bit by bit it grows

(and goodonya Vancouver Catholic Schools...hail Cascadia!)
 
I almost wrote "yay Cascadia", too, cuz that was one of my first reactions - but then decided to leave that to you because that's your new thang. I could hear it already! :)
 
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Inannawhimsey said:
i'm glad that Tracey Wilson is getting some treatment for her pernicious & debilitating disorder earlier rather than later, saving her from a longer period of mental & physical etc pain & anxiety & fear

she is lucky to have such an iconoclastic lawyer as well :3

here's looking at the new sin being codified: thou shalt not deny a person's identity. bit by bit it grows

(and goodonya Vancouver Catholic Schools...hail Cascadia!)
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Yeah. Her lawyer does seem pretty cool.
 
Thank you Kimmo......
I am so very moved by the young ones that have to endure spiritual abuse by religious organizations and institutions.
Those precious young ones because of age are compelled to sit in churches and attend schools where their spirits are crushed by the most ill informed and outdated beliefs and policies. Amongst young persons .... the best estimate we have of suicide due to being trans runs at 47%. The real rate is acknowledged to be much higher. I just close my eyes and imagine the bullying, persecution, and depression. I am determined to do something about it ...... and that means making inroads into those very same religious institutions. ..... and I have a plan :)
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Good to read of this. The policy sure has lots of 'coulds' in it - which makes me fear for the voluntary accommodations holding many loopholes. It will be important for organizations to watch how the implementation of this proceeds - hopefully with justice, but I do worry. No doubt the board will know others will be closely watching & evaluating.

Seems a good compromise to utlize the wording 'expression' of gender - works around some otherwise unshakable positions.
 
Like the sarcasm there inannawhimsy. Just wait a few years until the DSM stops classifying it as a mental dysfunction. Remember the DSM classified homosexuality as a mental dysfunction until the late 70s!

-insert some joke paralleling psychologists with the creators of pathfinder in the wake of DSM V-

-Omni
 
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Like the sarcasm there inannawhimsy. Just wait a few years until the DSM stops classifying it as a mental dysfunction. Remember the DSM classified homosexuality as a mental dysfunction until the late 70s!

-insert some joke paralleling psychologists with the creators of pathfinder in the wake of DSM V-

-Omni
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it wasn't sarcasm -- the pain & angst that the people feel is *real* -- the suicidal thoughts, the isolation, the self-loathing, the constant feeling that something is deeply wrong...

since our health care system doesn't recognize souls, our care is built around identifying actual conditions that respond to treatments and that there are things like the DSM that can help health care professionals

so i'm glad that this young woman is able to get empirical treatment before rather than having to endure the various anxieties & pains through adulthood

i hope that makes it clearer, you cynic you :3
 
Oh, I thought it was angry sarcasm. It is definitely a problem when human beings who are being themselves are considered ill because we cannot reach outside of the scientific framework of understanding. As someone who has been depressed I can understand that mental illness is really and truly a tangible thing. But I find it highly insulting and patronizing when someone being true to themselves in that way are considered sick of dysfunctional.

I suppose it's a process as the analytical minds of science try to wrap their heads around the idea of people not being mentally as they are physically.

-Omni
 
The_Omnissiah said:
Oh, I thought it was angry sarcasm. It is definitely a problem when human beings who are being themselves are considered ill because we cannot reach outside of the scientific framework of understanding. As someone who has been depressed I can understand that mental illness is really and truly a tangible thing. But I find it highly insulting and patronizing when someone being true to themselves in that way are considered sick of dysfunctional.

I suppose it's a process as the analytical minds of science try to wrap their heads around the idea of people not being mentally as they are physically.

-Omni
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i grok that attitude :3

our health care system ain't evil overlords who want to subjugate people and force them not to be true to themselves

thank goodness this young woman is being helped to be able to be true to herself (and that her trueness is empirically recognized by analytical minds, science -- which is the collective & hard-won knowledge of humanity -- & our health care providers). its a hard go to try to do it all by one's self (some people can do it)...

ps. i like your pathfinder joke :3 last time i listened to a D & D game it was like i was listening to aliens speak :eek: what system are you inflicting on your current minions?
 
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I just love how the psychologists arguing about the new DSM V and how the DSM IV was cooler. Sounds like D&D :P

For the last almost 4 years I've been slowly indoctrinating... I mean enlightening my friends into the universe of warhammer 40,000 through the convenient and incredibly awesome 40k rpgs put out by Fantasy Flight Games. Although I have books from all the systems, almost all of my campaigns have been done using Dark Heresy (which has it's 2nd edition coming out this fall!).

-Omni
 
Pardon my ignorance...so the purpose of the DSM term "Gender Dysphoria" is NOT to try to "treat" people so they feel like the physical sex they were born, labeled, assigned at birth, right? It is to help people to overcome all the emotional pain they endure and be happy as the person they are, as the gender they identify as, right? So it is not the same thing as trying to "treat" a person into "straightness" (like when homosexuality was considered an illness), but rather, has a more compassionate aim- I hope?
 
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As far as I know, the DSM isn't advocating anything, simply trying to classify transgenderism (not really a word but you get what I mean) in psychological terms. So it's really just a definition, and some people will try in their way to 'cure' it, and others will try to use the definition to better understand and help people who are transitioning.

-Omni
 
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