Well it's only 10 p.m. here. My brain's still active.
Euthanasia in Canada, Supreme Court Ruled this Morning
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I suggest DaisyJane is the one narrowing the lens to her own perspective. And now that disability is equated with impairment in this ruling rather than seeing disability as the barriers in society, everyone with a disability is implicated - not just people with very severe impairments like DaisyJane's son. And although the ruling favours the equal right for people to choose death because they feel too much suffering from their impairments - it doesn't protect people suffering the disabling effects of society by distinguishing impairment from disability (and leaving disability out for that reason). DaisyJane is not being fair and is narrowing the perspective, not me. I am expanding it by separating impairment from disability. She's narrowing it by lumping them together. So is this ruling. So does the medical model.
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What do you mean by specified? Why not let go of the concept that disability=medical impairment, and instead recognize that medical impairment=medical impairment and disability is the disabling factors in society (regardless of whether the red tape we have to deal with has caught up yet or not - the red tape is notoriously limiting in definition because those who design it are out of date)? What do you have to lose by that shift in mindset? Because the social model is now part of international human rights law that PWDs themselves achieved - human rights that are there for you. Why do you need to hang on to the word disability to describe impairment? What advantage is there to you or anyone else in doing that? Two seperate words to describe two distinct but related concepts. What is wrong with that?
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Ritafee
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And more about the Royal Family ...
The King, who was 71, had been in failing health for some months with a chronic bronchial complaint, but his final illness was brief. It was only four days before his death that the Queen sent for Lord Dawson the royal physician - who though he spoke against a bill that would have legalized the practice of euthanasia - did so without condemning euthanasia - instead, describing it as a ''mission of mercy,'' he argued it was a matter best left to the conscience of individual physicians rather than official regulators.
Calling for a ''gentle growth of euthanasia,'' rather than a removal of all restraints by legislation, Lord Dawson went on to say, ''If we cannot cure for heaven's sake let us do our best to lighten the pain.''
Similar reasoning was reflected in the notes he made after the King's death. ''It was evident,'' the physician said, ''that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the patient but little comporting with the dignity and the serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene.''
There is no indication that the King himself had been consulted.
Last words ... ''God damn you,'' the King said, according to the notes, as he fell asleep.
The King, who was 71, had been in failing health for some months with a chronic bronchial complaint, but his final illness was brief. It was only four days before his death that the Queen sent for Lord Dawson the royal physician - who though he spoke against a bill that would have legalized the practice of euthanasia - did so without condemning euthanasia - instead, describing it as a ''mission of mercy,'' he argued it was a matter best left to the conscience of individual physicians rather than official regulators.
Calling for a ''gentle growth of euthanasia,'' rather than a removal of all restraints by legislation, Lord Dawson went on to say, ''If we cannot cure for heaven's sake let us do our best to lighten the pain.''
Similar reasoning was reflected in the notes he made after the King's death. ''It was evident,'' the physician said, ''that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the patient but little comporting with the dignity and the serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene.''
There is no indication that the King himself had been consulted.
Last words ... ''God damn you,'' the King said, according to the notes, as he fell asleep.
Environmental is not outside the social model - like building wider sidewalks without steep graduations at curb crossings. Or automatic door openers, or crossings with sounds for visually impaired people. That recognizes disabling factors in the environment outside of the person. Not weather though, if that's what you're thinking. Although transportation supports or people to assist could help with that too. As could allowing a person to work from home if at all possible (in the case of employment) or flexibity about start times to accommodate problems accessing transportation. So that goes along with attitudes I guess.
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Un definitive ...
Like word plae ... denizens of the adept sort of reminds me of The Dark (K)Night and the meanest brute in the Shadow ... a mire unseen factor! As mire mortal critters where do we humbly fit in except as homunculus ... wee little big man as a humble thought in an emotional setting?
Does one factor have not a clue about what pain is caused the other ... and another factor wishes to abide by the rule .. and thus the evil cannot be eradicated by sheer roué's ... that may be child's word pale ... or pore et'ihs the dor 'E in the threshold?
Perhaps if on e learned a spectre of tongues a wider wisdom would be encountered ... and larger BH's evolve out of pas time ... like Tae Mae Us ... that can get the institutionalized in a state of chaos ... but they don't know it (agin th' roué's)!
I say only two things count: compassion for thought lost .... and desire to regain what bleu thro' ID! This appears too psychic ... so mortal avarice won't like it. Thus all remained in the dark, Sous La Mare, or metaphorically buried in de dirt ... a gravid fun ction (in other explicit ... ct=z and thus Zion). Thus the Joker remains wild ... a free emotion that will consume us --- Pogo!
Like word plae ... denizens of the adept sort of reminds me of The Dark (K)Night and the meanest brute in the Shadow ... a mire unseen factor! As mire mortal critters where do we humbly fit in except as homunculus ... wee little big man as a humble thought in an emotional setting?
Does one factor have not a clue about what pain is caused the other ... and another factor wishes to abide by the rule .. and thus the evil cannot be eradicated by sheer roué's ... that may be child's word pale ... or pore et'ihs the dor 'E in the threshold?
Perhaps if on e learned a spectre of tongues a wider wisdom would be encountered ... and larger BH's evolve out of pas time ... like Tae Mae Us ... that can get the institutionalized in a state of chaos ... but they don't know it (agin th' roué's)!
I say only two things count: compassion for thought lost .... and desire to regain what bleu thro' ID! This appears too psychic ... so mortal avarice won't like it. Thus all remained in the dark, Sous La Mare, or metaphorically buried in de dirt ... a gravid fun ction (in other explicit ... ct=z and thus Zion). Thus the Joker remains wild ... a free emotion that will consume us --- Pogo!
Lastpointe
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And like everryone else who has a spot to be at a certain time, you should start earlier.
My son travels via TTC and GO to work, about an hour plus a ten minute walk when he gets there.
His job is fairly flexible. Go home 8 hours after you arrive more or less.
But sometimes his commute takes him 70 minutes, sometimes, 60, rarely 90 minutes.
He plans on it taking 80 minutes. If he is early, the trains on time, no rain........ Then he has time to grab a coffee.
You have to do the same.
If it normally takes you two hours from the time you wake to arrive at the office then that is your aim. But if sometimes it takes 21/2 hours then you should plan for that each day.
It then becomes a bonus if you arrive early. Time for coffee, ......
Everyone is like this, not just you. It isnt your disability. It is you using your disability as an excuse
When i was an RN working in a Toronto hospital, it wasnt ok to be late. The job didnt wait. You planned on being early. Shift changed at 7:30. I was always there at 7. That gave me a 30 minute window for bus , subway, traffic jam trouble. I was only late once. When the Gardner shut down due to an accident and i got stuck on it . Actually we all slowly started backing up the on ramps to get off but......
The rare day when the subway would shut down completely was a different thing. The night nurses stayed till the day nurses arrived.
But missing the bus was not an excuse. get there earlier
I get that with your mobility issues you can have bad days. But in all honesty, so do we all.
You wake up to rush to work and your babysitter is sick.
Your toddler refusese to put on their snow suit
You let the dog out to pee and she escapes into the neighbours yard
The plow hasnt hit your street yet and you cant get out
You run for the bus and it doesnt wait for you
.........
So you start early and enjoy the extra time at work if you get it
Or you are lucky like my son. If all goes well and he arrives half hour early, he can leave half hour early. Unless of course he has a late meeting
Do I detect some sense of loss of compassion for those with excess hindrances in life?
A real Joker in this field of effort to ignore the significant other ... really would give a chit to see the other waste away ... thus compassion vaporizes ... fla/fley tout! The Pan Pipes tout with esteem for the elite ... those without hesitation whatsoever!
Some one said there is a strange power that would like to do way with the poor and the rich ... a sacred communion of the psyche as a means, or medium to ends?
A real Joker in this field of effort to ignore the significant other ... really would give a chit to see the other waste away ... thus compassion vaporizes ... fla/fley tout! The Pan Pipes tout with esteem for the elite ... those without hesitation whatsoever!
Some one said there is a strange power that would like to do way with the poor and the rich ... a sacred communion of the psyche as a means, or medium to ends?
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I started my career by working in institutions. The first was a former TB San and was a facility for children. It was on a lovely grounds and actually did some good research on things like Downs and Autism.(they did not do research on the children) They had some behaviour programs and attempted to help the children move out and have productive lives. I worked there as a teen and chose to go to community college to pursue a career in that field. I worked in two institutions post graduation. One was a big ugly facility where people had been dumped in the fifties and sixties. It was more humane when I was there yet still not a place for human beings. I decided to return to university in order to work in a more helpful part of that field. Those institutions have since closed. The former TB San is still open I believe.
Times have changed since the 70's and 80 's thankfully. Of course there is still room to change and improve. Any assisted suicide laws that emerge do need to protect the most vulnerable in our society.
I don't know why I keep responding in here. On one hand, this is an important discussion. On the other, it is tiring to be preached at as if we have no knowledge or compassion. These issues require good critical thinking skills not just a rote reciting of a model. It is an important model. No model is perfect. Thankfully things evolve over time. Hopefully for the better.
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Of course this potential law should never replace good structural supports for all vulnerable people. There needs to be good mental health and addictions services, good and accessible palliative care, and other supports. I've said that before and so have others. A lot of us agreeing with you Kimmio.....even though we are not using the right words.
People are going to like what they like for their own reasons Cousin. Are we really going to try to limit people's freedom to like things? If it's a serious-enough issue for you - maybe send Pinga a private wondermail about it.
Do Roman Brutes like to see bloodshed in the Circe?
So much for the compassionate (empathe, sympathe and other rare feelings) side of the understanding ... which is considered part of the underworld to Roman Columns ... pede Stalls? The Latin tongue displays this a eD'm-ism ... a subtle conscience! Even the militant at the cross noted something was missing when de light was interred ... and the soul intelligence was be robed ... all wrapped in a book that was later burned! Religious folk are good at destroying gathered wisdom ... that they don't wish to be cognizant of ... thus some of us get beyond institution!
Perhaps it is just a ruagh state we have to pas thro' to become familiar with pure evil ... like the ultimate Joker ... he who makes on Heis a' Godd (gama's "g" a dark thing, know) like the Shadow in the veil ... an abstract tapestry ... t'is tuff that few can see far enough ahead to capture a vision! If one goes there should take a torch with yah ... for someone out there could ask the prodigal child: "what did you learn on the other side?" Stuff that'd blow the mind of un conscious Ness? This could be translated as in-sensitive ... best to kill the object of your attention ... put in out of their misery ... like the Roman Icon ...
... tis human err ... some say eM Ire ... dark to say least of the subtleties of cog nice antes ... that going before ...
Thus the subtle tendency to put a finger up to point at gods as our emotional downfall ... avarice personified ... a contained enemy? That gutte like chewing you can feel inside ..
So much for the compassionate (empathe, sympathe and other rare feelings) side of the understanding ... which is considered part of the underworld to Roman Columns ... pede Stalls? The Latin tongue displays this a eD'm-ism ... a subtle conscience! Even the militant at the cross noted something was missing when de light was interred ... and the soul intelligence was be robed ... all wrapped in a book that was later burned! Religious folk are good at destroying gathered wisdom ... that they don't wish to be cognizant of ... thus some of us get beyond institution!
Perhaps it is just a ruagh state we have to pas thro' to become familiar with pure evil ... like the ultimate Joker ... he who makes on Heis a' Godd (gama's "g" a dark thing, know) like the Shadow in the veil ... an abstract tapestry ... t'is tuff that few can see far enough ahead to capture a vision! If one goes there should take a torch with yah ... for someone out there could ask the prodigal child: "what did you learn on the other side?" Stuff that'd blow the mind of un conscious Ness? This could be translated as in-sensitive ... best to kill the object of your attention ... put in out of their misery ... like the Roman Icon ...
... tis human err ... some say eM Ire ... dark to say least of the subtleties of cog nice antes ... that going before ...Thus the subtle tendency to put a finger up to point at gods as our emotional downfall ... avarice personified ... a contained enemy? That gutte like chewing you can feel inside ..
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Forest fire smoke, pollen are big issues for me.
Lastpointe
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Yeah. That's what my mother always said. And that's what I do, of course. It doesn't always work out when you don't know how you're going to feel on different days, how long it might take to have a bath and get dressed (I cannot rush or I invariably hurt myself somehow), or what obstacles are in the way, or if you're going to fall down and have to find somewhere to clean up a bloody knee. It was a hypothetical but these things have happened and you, Northwind and Seeler are being ableist but you don't realize it. Sometimes I feel panicky crossing a street or going down a slight hill when I didn't doing the same thing on a different day but it takes twice as long. Even in mild weather. If it's icey (which it hasn't been at all this winter) it's a nightmare. I do have more to deal with - it is not always predictable. It's not an excuse.
On the other side of the coin the employer could just not make a big deal and allow you to come in early another day, or stay late or use a few minutes break time over the week to adjust for it. But if they are stuck on 9 a.m.sharp or whatever time - it can be ableist. I'm painting a picture of what it looks like and you're being incredibly insensitive.
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Also, none of the work I do is an emergency. It can wait, nobody's life is at risk - to put it in perpective. Being late is not the end of the world, that's just an attitude. I realize it wouldn't be wise to choose such a job. And lateness is not always a problem but it can be.
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Just pointing out that I noticed she's done that several times. It feels crappy. I'm fighting an uphill battle here, I realize. When I like comments it's not because someone is being put down cattily, it's because I like their point or I am aknowledging their response to me.
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Are we being ableist because we disagree with you?? Are we supposed to give you a pass and agree with everything you say because you have a disability? Are we supposed to coddle you because you have a disability?
If you knew me you wouldn't accuse me of being ableist.
If you knew me you wouldn't accuse me of being ableist.