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Dogs are usually pretty aware of spacial surroundings. It is one of the things that they test for with service dogs. For instance many dogs will not walk over a grate. They sense the space beneath. They don’t generally walk to the edge of a cliff, same issue

but that falls apart when they are chasing something for sure and dogs get into trouble that way. Falling into unused wells in the country is a big issue and we live near the escarpment. some dogs get themselves in the wrong side of a crevice but most dogs are pretty aware

just like most dogs won’t venture onto unsafe ice. If they do, it is often as a result of chasing something
 
Lastpointe said:
Dogs are usually pretty aware of spacial surroundings. It is one of the things that they test for with service dogs. For instance many dogs will not walk over a grate. They sense the space beneath. They don’t generally walk to the edge of a cliff, same issue

but that falls apart when they are chasing something for sure and dogs get into trouble that way. Falling into unused wells in the country is a big issue and we live near the escarpment. some dogs get themselves in the wrong side of a crevice but most dogs are pretty aware

just like most dogs won’t venture onto unsafe ice. If they do, it is often as a result of chasing something
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Depending on the specific standpoint, it might look like just a foot drop until right over the crevice and not clearing the jump.
 
Northwind said:
It looks deep when you look down into it.
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OH yeah, I'm thinking more running along, ever suddenly come across a hole because it's not obvious until you're almost in it? with dogs being lower to the ground, I could see that, especially if going from the high to low side.
 
I could see where they try to jump across and miss. It's creepy in spots. It's perfectly fine to get across, and not too wide for a jump. Still, with the height difference between the two sides and the width and depth involved, it looks more challenging than it is.
 
So, speaking of dogs, *sigh*. I have a hound. She's a barker, but also a Zoom-bomber, and a person and critter attacker, generally a "bad dog". My defense is that I was owner #5 at 18 months, she was in the pound twice, etc. I have tried. She's never going to be a good dog. I spend many thousands to build her a secure backyard. When the furnace isn't on, all is good. She can let herself in and out of her back door whenever. When the furnace is on, it's up to me. And she's "miss wrong side of the damned door". So, tonight, I get home from work at 5:10. I have a Maundy Thursday service Zoom, complete with Seder dinner, to be ready by six. Put dog out, prep dinner and Seder plates (much of it pre-prepared but has to be cooked). Roasted veg are in, bbq on for chops, plates prepped for main seder plate, dessert, appetizer. Dog in, dog and cat fed, dog out. Dinner half finished and resting in time to quickly plate to eat later. Service starts 6:05. Everything going beautifully. Hammering at door (fortunately, I have finished my bit of the reading). "Your dog has been barking all day!" "I've only been home from work since 5" "Your dog's been barking for hours". "Dog went out at 6:05 just before Zoom worship. It's now 7:07. I will bring her in." "Don't be such a bitch!" *sigh*
 
We were threatened by the By Law enforcer claiming someone had complained about our dog that had barked the entire weekend. I asked for the name of the complainer but apparently I didn't have a right to that information. I asked how it was known that it was my dog doing the barking. I was told the complainer is well known and not stupid. I asked if the By law enforcer had any actual evidence that my dog was at fault. He said he had absolute trust in the word of the complainer.
I explained that we had been away all weekend and the dog was with us. The By Law guy said he KNEW that was a lie.
I grabbed a piece of paper and a pen, wrote down the name and phone number of someone who lived near our location at the weekend. I offered him the phone.. He said he wasn't going to waste his time because he knew our dog was guilty. I asked for an apology. He refused. I phoned the Town Administrator and suggested he should rein in his over zealous By Law guy. It may be a good idea to tell him to choose his friends more carefully because "name of complainer' is well known as a troublemaker.
 
*All I'd like in life is enough time to time how long other people's dogs are barking outside.*

Maybe you have different ring tones for each one...Zeus is tone 1 (deep GSD), Pixie tone 2, Lucy, the frigging hound, tone 33333333333333333, Griffin tone 4, Seeler tone 1/5, 1/5, 1/5...
 
As someone living next to a pair of pitbulls who I know are getting beaten by their owners on a regular basis I do appreciate that the local animal control officer at least tried to talk to the neighbours twice after I told him that those dogs are behind a fence so flimsy that they could walk through it if they intend to do so. It hasn’t changed anything ( lately they put a lawn chair in front of the 1 m “high “ fence to keep it standing up, on the other side it is leaning against the green bin.). I took the opportunity of the one hour between me being home and them coming home to work on that side of the property this week, putting some bigger rocks under my fence to discourage them from wanting to dig underneath it. The only good thing is that the owners are often away, leaving the dogs inside. I just fear for the toddler sized grandkid who is left roaming freely among those dogs.
 
I know, animal control is often a difficult job, but s**t, the dog's lived in this neighbourhood for 9 years, she's a noisy, hound-y thing, it's not a distressed barking. I even appreciate concerned neighbours, but if you'd just bother to "know" the neighbourhood dogs before you came ham-handedly hammering on my damned door in the middle of a Seder Haggadah, would be better. Normally, I would have been gone all day and all night tonight, and Lucy would have been silent inside.
 
If working from home or something, I could understand bringing up a dog that's barking all day, but I would start with the neighbour (assuming it's sometime who hasn't already given me reason to avoid). If someone is leaving their dog out at night to bark all night, that's a little different, especially in the city.
 
Agreed, but I'm sure my dog's barking bothers this person, who did not try to identify themselves, or tell me where they lived, but obviously is "in the neighbourhood". I didn't ask for name address, etc., because I was in the middle of a Zoom worship service, and told them so. And he was complaining about the current barking experience; he did not offer previous complaints. Lucy is sometimes out all night, accidentally (summer is warm, she can go in and out, she has a dog house outside), but any bark I hear at night, and I'm a light sleeper, she's in. She's a nuisance daytime, sometimes, for Zoom meetings, and tradesperson visits. Choice is backyard where she is free, or bedroom, trying to scratch her way into the house or out into the yard.

I am a totally responsible rescue dog owner, and I get grumpy at people who interrupt Zoom Seder dinner services to try and tell me otherwise...
 
BetteTheRed said:
Agreed, but I'm sure my dog's barking bothers this person, who did not try to identify themselves, or tell me where they lived, but obviously is "in the neighbourhood". I didn't ask for name address, etc., because I was in the middle of a Zoom worship service, and told them so. And he was complaining about the current barking experience; he did not offer previous complaints. Lucy is sometimes out all night, accidentally (summer is warm, she can go in and out, she has a dog house outside), but any bark I hear at night, and I'm a light sleeper, she's in. She's a nuisance daytime, sometimes, for Zoom meetings, and tradesperson visits. Choice is backyard where she is free, or bedroom, trying to scratch her way into the house or out into the yard.

I am a totally responsible rescue dog owner, and I get grumpy at people who interrupt Zoom Seder dinner services to try and tell me otherwise...
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Oh yeah, not complaining about you - the person seems to have unreasonable expectations! Around here the kids are louder than dogs - when you live in a city it's expected you will hear your neighbours at times unless you soundproof your house.
 
Yeah, that's what seemed a bit wyrd, an almost timing of a barking dog around the dinner time when people and kids and dinner hour all intersect... He had his phone out to tell me it was 7:07. I pointed out that my zoom meeting started at 6:05. I think we hit a reasonable-ness dilemma there, and I closed the door...
 
BetteTheRed said:
Yeah, that's what seemed a bit wyrd, an almost timing of a barking dog around the dinner time when people and kids and dinner hour all intersect... He had his phone out to tell me it was 7:07. I pointed out that my zoom meeting started at 6:05. I think we hit a reasonable-ness dilemma there, and I closed the door...
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He says that like 7:07 pm is 'quiet time' hours.
 
The whole thing was a bit surreal. I had been so frantically busy for two hours, getting Seder dinner/plate/presentation together, PLUS appropriately dealing with dog and cat, and looking okay from waist up for meeting. And there were candles to be found. Having done all this, and being in mid-ceremony, was a bit overwhelming. And so, then, Lucy had to help. And there was a lamb bone on my plate...
 
In other years, I would have been roasting (carving/plating) three legs of lamb. making a large batch of ratatouille, some multi-grain pilaf, and running around like a lunatic pulling it all together. And as Rev Susan remarked tonight, we don't have two hours of kitchen/clean-up to face.

A grumpy neighbour about Lucy barking seems less work.
 
Oh, neighbours complaining. I remember in the suburban street my parents lived in, picture - first, our parents raised us there and then the kids inherited the houses, properties got split in half, so it was that generation of “young “people who grew up together- my sister’s neighbour complained that someone was on ” their” parking space ( public road - no assigned parking anywhere). True, the second generation had twice as many cars as the first one. Maybe that’s why my two siblings living there were driving Smart cars. I seemed to me as ridiculous as the older generation complaining about laundry beeing hung out on Sundays.
 
Good morning! As we commiserate over overly-sensitive neighbours and dogs' barking, claims to 'my' parking space (sort of sounds like 'my' pew), let us gather round the coffee cart for tea, coffee and fellowship. Oh, yes, it's Good Friday, so nice fresh hot cross buns (or not cross buns, if one prefers). Enjoy.

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