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On some what of a tangent, but a semi-virus-related story came up on CBC today.
Who the hell claims to have an infectious disease at 30,000 feet just as a prank? Surely there is more at play here. Hypochondria maybe?
If this was a prank and it was my flight, I would be looking into whether he's worth enough to bother suing for the cost of the trip. Basically, he's f***ed up the vacation of every person on that flight.
Who the hell claims to have an infectious disease at 30,000 feet just as a prank? Surely there is more at play here. Hypochondria maybe?
If this was a prank and it was my flight, I would be looking into whether he's worth enough to bother suing for the cost of the trip. Basically, he's f***ed up the vacation of every person on that flight.
ChemGal
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I agree with you on suing him. If that were me, it wouldn't just be the trip, there's the extra meds needed too.
From the article, I don't get a sense of hypochondria. Either a really stupid dare, or if a mental illness aspect maybe a personality disorder
Ritafee
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This is an interesting story ... with some interesting twists.
Renowned Canadian scientist Frank Plummer dies in Kenya, where he led HIV breakthroughs
"Of course, the most noteworthy breakthrough that he and his team made was the finding of female sex-workers who were resistant to HIV. The gift these women have given science in the years since has been unparalleled."
Cause of SARS disputed
Head of Canadian lab not convinced that coronavirus causes SARS.
www.the-scientist.com
"The director of one of the World Health Organization's global network of 11 laboratories investigating SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), told The Scientist yesterday (April 10) that the new coronavirus implicated as the cause of the disease is certainly around in the environment but is unlikely to be the causative agent. Frank Plummer is director of Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg."
"Plummer was most recently living in Toronto, where he underwent experimental brain surgery to fight alcohol addiction."
"He was believed to be the first person in North America to undergo deep brain stimulation for that purpose."
Mrs.Anteater
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At 29 years old this is not a prank like a 14 year old would do. Some kind of personality disorder feeding on the attention, kind of like Trump. I wonder what the fine would be for doing something like this.
BetteTheRed
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If it reflects the cost to the airline, it should be high. I was with a group tonight, one of whose children and her spouse was on that flight. They had to fly all the way back to Toronto, airline put them up overnight, flew them back the next day. And that particular couple was only away for 6 days. Take one day away, and it's a big chunk of your vacation.
ChemGal
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28 year old, publicity stunt. He's a musician or artist (I had a different article on an app, can't link it) and really lacked in any skills of figuring out the consequences ahead of what he did.
globalnews.ca
This one has more info -
He really seems to lack in the actions result in consequences critical thinking:
Man who made fake coronavirus claim causing Toronto-Jamaica flight to return wanted to make viral video | Globalnews.ca
“There’s all types of positions -- people that are happy, people that are upset. But in the end, I ruined the people on the plane’s trip -- so I'm extremely apologetic.”
globalnews.ca
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He really seems to lack in the actions result in consequences critical thinking:
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PilgrimsProgress
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28 year old, publicity stunt. He's a musician or artist (I had a different article on an app, can't link it) and really lacked in any skills of figuring out the consequences ahead of what he did.
Man who made fake coronavirus claim causing Toronto-Jamaica flight to return wanted to make viral video | Globalnews.ca
“There’s all types of positions -- people that are happy, people that are upset. But in the end, I ruined the people on the plane’s trip -- so I'm extremely apologetic.”
This one has more info -
He really seems to lack in the actions result in consequences critical thinking:
"Any publicity for myself is good publicity" - says a lot about how the world is going these days...........
Social media and television seem focussed on being a "celebrity". Maybe folks can't handle not being a celebrity -especially if they're lonely?
In recent years here in Australia we're seeing (mostly) young men set fires to encourage bushfires. Couple that with a lack of empathy for others and I predict we'll see more of this behaviour.
Mrs.Anteater
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Banning him from flights with Westjet and Air Canada for 7 years would be a fine I would give him. Maybe he is smarter in a couple of years.
Further up thread, I cited a German study that confirmed that novel coronavirus can be transmitted by asymptomatic individuals......as of today, they are saying the study was flawed, although this report doesn't seem to rule it out as you read to the end of the article.
www.cnn.com
Report that said Wuhan coronavirus can spread before symptoms was flawed | CNN
A report that suggested Wuhan coronavirus could spread before the onset of symptoms was flawed, according to public health experts.
www.cnn.com
This is creepy. It was far too well planned ahead of time. I find it creepy, dystopian - and realistically the virus doesn't seem to be as big a deal as what they may have 'anticipated' ...yes, it feels orchestrated to me. I have no proof so currently that possibility is just in my imagination - I hope it's not reality - but when I read that half the facility's patient rooms are isolation rooms (when this doesn't appear much worse than the annual flu) it gave me a chill up my spine. As did the cruise ship quarantine. It seems like a way too organized effort and it's creepy that people not feeling sick can be commanded by marshall law to be held captives in rooms not much bigger than cells. They need testing equipment onboard...and to let the well people go.
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BetteTheRed
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I think it's the more pragmatic Eastern culture that you find unsettling. I don't know what's wyrd about finding out that other cultures are better at disaster preparation planning than others. China is an enormous country with a well-organized population. It is not a democracy, but I've had my fill of the West telling everyone how to organize themselves.
Disaster ... better if you don't see it coming upon you ... and you won;t worry ... even if you could've helped yourself with a bit on intelligence supporting the passions! Double vision or a dual (demi) urge to see deeper? Nah ... that would make the flat side thicker ...
Yes. It's enormous - it looks like they're building (what could be used as) camps - and the amount of power being exercised over the populace - setting groundwork for the behaviour of other countries, is frightening. There wasn't this much freaking out over Ebola, which is way deadlier. So, something's wrong with this picture. I think this is probably a WHO planned international exercise, or some even bigger and authoritarian picture of the military industrial variety. I have no proof just my gut tells me something is not right with this picture.
Now a cruise ship is stuck off of Japan. That too, is frightening and weird. Why are they not testing passengers and evacuating the ones with the virus instead of just quarantining everyone onboard and, effectively, keeping them prisoner in their rooms? That seems like a human rights abuse (again they need to be testing everyone not just locking them in their rooms, out at sea)...Is this part of the friction between China and Japan?
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There are nearly 1.5 billion people in China and 130 have died. The response is disproportionate, on purpose, I think. I've already come across this op-Ed:
www.bloomberg.com
The title is not showing but it's about battling corona virus being a "job for the military".
Battling a Pandemic Is a Job for the Military
Even if coronavirus fizzles out, the world’s armies need to prepare for the next deadly global outbreak.
www.bloomberg.com
The title is not showing but it's about battling corona virus being a "job for the military".
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Seems like a no-win situation - so if governments do less & give people more liberty - that would be deemed irresponsible if the incubation period & mode of transmission are more clearly identified & people were wandering about when contagious. Restrict liberty and it becomes a conspiracy of authoritarian control. No win.
No, I think that's BS. They could just declare it no deadlier than the flu, urge people to take the normal precautions, and move on. They are hyping this waaaay more than necessary...on purpose.
I remember the ebola scare and how the first pictures showed medical staff with very little protection. Eventually as they lost staff as well as patients they upped their game for protection, including closing some borders. It did help.
I think part of the response is that not much is known about this coronavirus virus.
I think part of the response is that not much is known about this coronavirus virus.