Churches should be such places. The topic of death should be appropriately discussed there. Do such discussions not take place in your faith community? At our church we have recently had a time when the subject of death was one of the main things being discussed - due to the passing of our Worship and Youth Pastor.
DEATH CAFE, anyone?
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Churches should be such places. The topic of death should be appropriately discussed there. Do such discussions not take place in your faith community? At our church we have recently had a time when the subject of death was one of the main things being discussed - due to the passing of our Worship and Youth Pastor.
Mendalla
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They do, but something like Death Cafe would be more open and expose you to a broader range of views on the subject. Not to mention provide a place for those without a faith community to have the conversation.
Yes - that's the reason I wouldn't be particularly open to going to one.
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Or - they could visit a faith community.
Delightful Life
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Neo
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I don't think any angels need to be summoned over this Inanna, it wasn't really a Beatles song. The album "All Things Must Pass" came out 8 months after the Beatles broke up. And while it did have some notables playing on it, only Ringo from the Beatles played on it.
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You're trolling again, I know, but death happens to those without faith as well. The faithful have not cornered the market on death.
Mendalla
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I'd be suspicious of that one unless they assured me there would be no sales pitch involved. Even then, meeting in a place that could be seeing attendees as "customers" wouldn't sit right with me.
What message of hope do you offer to those who will die chansen?
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Mendalla
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Do all those who will die need a message of hope? For me, it is enough to know that my genes and memories will have a place in other lives and that the world will carry on. The Christian "message of hope" is meaningless and offers no hope to someone who doesn't actually believe in its underlying premises. I have no problem with people who find hope in that message (like my late father and his widow), but I don't find it there myself.
In the end, we all find our meaning and purpose in the philosophy or faith that resonates with us.
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chansen
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I tell them that many incredible and amazing things will happen after they die. They just won't be around to experience them.
Hermann
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Yes, seeler, exactly! Because death is a forbidden topic for polite conversation, that's why Death Cafes are springing up everywhere.
Although macabre jokes can be part of the Death Cafe culture, there is nothing macabre about Death Cafes. As I said in one of my foregoing posts, the objective of Death Cafes is "to increase the awareness of death in order get the most out of life."
For many of us, the awareness of death overshadows our lives. Death makes us uncomfortable, so we silence it to death. (sorry, I couldn't resist the pun) But this doesn't make our discomfort go away. Discussing death, making it the necessary part of life that it is, will make us more accepting of death and dying.
Although macabre jokes can be part of the Death Cafe culture, there is nothing macabre about Death Cafes. As I said in one of my foregoing posts, the objective of Death Cafes is "to increase the awareness of death in order get the most out of life."
For many of us, the awareness of death overshadows our lives. Death makes us uncomfortable, so we silence it to death. (sorry, I couldn't resist the pun) But this doesn't make our discomfort go away. Discussing death, making it the necessary part of life that it is, will make us more accepting of death and dying.
Hermann
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Chansen will be our Death Cafe cynic. It is very important to have those; they are necessary to bring uppity philosophers or blind believers who are high on death down to earth.
airclean33
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My Belief is, there using the wrong name. In times past, we use to call it, In The here after.This seems like a better name. Have you come for questions about the here after? Are going to be in the here after? Where do are loved ones go, after here? The one man I know, who can answer all those questions . He being the only man that has been there and here. He promised that He would go before us to prepare a place for us. Who would come after Him.His Name of course, Jesus The Christ. Should we fear the here after?In no way. We have been told Our Father is expecting us home , and He knows all are names, for they have been shouted out in Heaven. So all would know your on the way home. Wait I could be wrong about the name. For those who walk with Jesus . The name could be , THE LIFE EVER AFTER CAFE.
Mendalla
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That could actually work for a lot of people, even if they understand it different from Christians. I like it.
unsafe
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As airclean33 pionts out -----
Really there is no actual Death it is a separation ---We are Spirit Beings and we possess a soul --Spirits don't die ----the physical body is left lifeless is all as the Spirit and soul live and exit the body and go through a door to the other side ---where the spirit and soul goes is up to us ------there is a second separation for those who refuse Jesus but your spirit and soul still live --just separated from God for good and go to a place of torment ---
We call it Death but it really is just an exit from the Physical to the Spiritual --- So it could be called From the Seen to The Unseen Cafe ----
Also there is some who could never have to worry about the separation from the body as they could be the raptured which means ---spirit --soul and body are gone -----Like Enoch and Elijah were among the raptured in the old testament---what a great discussion that could be ----at the Death Cafe
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
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6 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Hebrews 11:5King James Version (KJV)
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
2 Kings 2:11Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 As they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire parted the two of them, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
Really there is no actual Death it is a separation ---We are Spirit Beings and we possess a soul --Spirits don't die ----the physical body is left lifeless is all as the Spirit and soul live and exit the body and go through a door to the other side ---where the spirit and soul goes is up to us ------there is a second separation for those who refuse Jesus but your spirit and soul still live --just separated from God for good and go to a place of torment ---
We call it Death but it really is just an exit from the Physical to the Spiritual --- So it could be called From the Seen to The Unseen Cafe ----
Also there is some who could never have to worry about the separation from the body as they could be the raptured which means ---spirit --soul and body are gone -----Like Enoch and Elijah were among the raptured in the old testament---what a great discussion that could be ----at the Death Cafe
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
1
6 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Hebrews 11:5King James Version (KJV)
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
2 Kings 2:11Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 As they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire parted the two of them, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.